Subj : Re: Some good news at least To : alt.tv.farscape From : Nick Date : Sun Sep 04 2005 18:34:22 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape John Iwaniszek wrote: > Jim Larson wrote in > news:Xns96C760F6036A03v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: > >> John Iwaniszek wrote: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote in >>> news:Xns96C75B0F53FBF3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>> >>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nick wrote in >>>>> news:Xns96C76B3801495ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>>> >>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote in >>>>>>> news:Xns96C76EE68D0BBjoiwhnanri@66.26.32.8: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Steve Brooks" wrote in >>>>>>>> news:fGCSe.3238$7p1.3164@newsfe7-win.ntli.net: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> According to our radio all the people who want to leave >>>>>>>>> New Orleans have now been evacuated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Except for the peopel trapped in their atics and everyone >>>>>>>> else who aren't being counted as part of "Operatoin Cover >>>>>>>> Bush's Ass". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "There was a striking dicrepancy between the CNN >>>>>>> International report >>>>>>> on the Bush visit to the New Orleans disaster zone, >>>>>>> yesterday, and reports of the same event by German TV. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ZDF News reported that the president's visit was a >>>>>>> completely staged >>>>>>> event. Their crew witnessed how the open air food >>>>>>> distribution point Bush visited in front of the cameras was >>>>>>> torn down immediately after the president and the herd of >>>>>>> 'news people' had left and that others which were allegedly >>>>>>> being set up were abandoned at the same time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The people in the area were once again left to fend for >>>>>>> themselves, said ZDF." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's been more than a week. This is a national >>>>>>> embarrasment. Worse: people are still dying. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Those particular Germans are full of crap. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nothing mus be said against Dear Leader. I wonder who the >>>>> good Germans are now? >>>> >>>> Conversely, everything said against Dear Leader is not >>>> automatically true. Independent confirmation would be nice. >>>> >>>> Just as a point for consideration: >>>> >>>> http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/heute_zdf/ >>>> >>>> (I'm not taking the above at face value. However, I have >>>> followed a little German and French news now and then , and in >>>> my throroughly unenlightened and subjective opinion, they do >>>> not match the Brits for objectivity.) >>>> >>> >>> Some of the reports of the potempkin relief stations came from >>> people on the ground, and people watching live feeds. And >>> frankly, considering the lies and deception these people have >>> proven they are capable of in just about every situation large >>> and small, who are you going to believe? >>> >>> >>> For example: >>> >>> >>> "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees." - >>> George W. Bush, Sept 1, 2005. >>> >>> (Do I need to point out how ridiculous and lame this particular >>> lie is?) >>> >>> >>> "Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact >>> for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal >>> officials said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a >>> state of emergency, the senior Bush official said." >>> >>> (http://tinyurl.com/bhkqg a pdf of the governor's declaration >>> of a state of emergency dated 26 august and extending to 25 >>> september. Furthermore: http://tinyurl.com/d5pd2 a link to the >>> announcement that the President declared a state of emergency >>> wherein "FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide >>> at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to >>> alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Debris removal and >>> emergency protective measures, including direct Federal >>> assistance, will be provided at 75 percent Federal funding.") >>> >>> >>> The excuses and blame shifting started looking pathological last >>> week. At this point, They've become criminal. >>> >> >> I don't dispute any of this. For all I know, the ZDF report may >> even be true. Anyone paying even cursory attention to nothing >> more than the big national media outlets will have noticed the >> glaring inconsistencies between the administration's positions >> and a little thing I like to call reality. That is unless they've >> got their fingers in their ears and are screaming, "I'm not >> listening," which I'm sure is precisely what a lot of people are >> doing. >> >> My only point is that while it may be nice to believe every >> negative story about them, the more outlandish[1] ones are self >> defeating. It provides a focal point for their counter-bullshit. >> In effect, it provides them with a free strawman to knock down, >> pound into the ground, dance upon and point out to the >> finger-in-ear "I support the Preznit" crowd with the nice, >> calming reassurances they have come to expect. It undermines the >> real stories of incompetence and stupidity. >> > > I'm not disputing that one needs to be critical in citing stories > from widely distributed sources. However, the corroboratoin of > the potemkin aid stations is not going to come from major outlets. > The journalists cleared to travel with Bush woudl instantly be > left on the side of the road if they didn't report the party > line, assuming that they were even inclined to report anything > that went counter to the official image the Bushies are trying to > project. > > And as far a outlandish stories, back channel early warning, and > big media corroboraion goes: Note how the Michael Brown > backeground story evolved to exactly what I pointed to the other > day. He went from being a "former city council man with > responsibilities for city emergency management, and head of hte > International Arabian Horsebreeders Association wih ties to the > Inernational Olympic Committee" To a "Bush crony former college > roomate with no obvious qualifications for the job" in roughly 24 > hours. > > In short, it pays to listen to the back channels because without > them we would be th edumb, fat, and stupid Americans that so many > of us have aspired to in recent years. I am right here an hour away from all that is happening. Neither my local news nor my local newspaper nor anyone else who has come in from New Orleans lately has said anything like this. Yet some people way the hell over in Germany claim it is happening and you are questioning any of us who think they may not be reporting things accurately. .