Subj : Re: Um...no comment? To : alt.tv.farscape From : Nick Date : Fri Sep 02 2005 22:11:11 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Chaya wrote: > Chaya wrote: > >> Nick wrote: >> >>> Nick wrote: >>> >>>> Chaya wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "RR" wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:a0QRe.210679$0f.188639@tornado.texas.rr.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New >>>>>>>>>>>> Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in >>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans >>>>>>>>>>>> flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq >>>>>>>>>>>> war. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to >>>>>>>>>>>> study how New Orleans could be protected from a >>>>>>>>>>>> catastrophic hurricane, but the Bush administration >>>>>>>>>>>> ordered that the research not be undertaken. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress >>>>>>>>>>>> created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control >>>>>>>>>>>> Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened >>>>>>>>>>>> and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early >>>>>>>>>>>> 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a >>>>>>>>>>>> report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans >>>>>>>>>>>> was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., >>>>>>>>>>>> including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by >>>>>>>>>>>> 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project >>>>>>>>>>>> essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq >>>>>>>>>>>> war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut >>>>>>>>>>>> funding requested by the New Orleans district of the >>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the >>>>>>>>>>>> waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. >>>>>>>>>>>> Additional cuts at the beginning of this year (for a >>>>>>>>>>>> total reduction in funding of 44.2 percent since 2001) >>>>>>>>>>>> forced the New Orleans district of the Corps to impose >>>>>>>>>>>> a hiring freeze. The Senate had debated adding funds >>>>>>>>>>>> for fixing New Orleans' levees, but it was too late. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The New Orleans Times-Picayune, which before the >>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane published a series on the federal funding >>>>>>>>>>>> problem, and whose presses are now underwater, reported >>>>>>>>>>>> online: "No one can say they didn't see it coming ... >>>>>>>>>>>> Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, >>>>>>>>>>>> serious questions are being asked about the lack of >>>>>>>>>>>> preparation." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> By Sidney Blumenthal >>>>>>>>>>>> Salon.com Wednesday 31 August 2005 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a timeline for the gutting of FEMA, starting, you >>>>>>>>>>> guessed it, in 2001. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005 >>>>>>>>>>> _ 09/007023.ph p >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is is just me, or - based on the above info - does this >>>>>>>>>> smack of heaping amounts of bullshit insult to injury?: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/i >>>>>>>>>> ndex. h tml >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would say that it's just about par for the course. And >>>>>>>>> I don't golf. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is a story that I find most disturbing because it will >>>>>>>> affect me both personally and long term. >>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/afb5h >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Overnight Baton Rouge Becomes Largest City in Louisiana >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By Ann Gerhart >>>>>>>> Washington Post Staff Writer >>>>>>>> Thursday, September 1, 2005; 2:36 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BATON ROUGE, Sept. 1 -- Seventy miles west of New Orleans, >>>>>>>> the state capital of Baton Rouge and its surrounding parish >>>>>>>> received its own storm surge overnight: a huge wave of >>>>>>>> displaced people, dragging their anger, misery and >>>>>>>> desperation along with them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In a day, this city has become the largest in Louisiana, >>>>>>>> and grim local officials here predicted it would double in >>>>>>>> size, to about 800,000, permanently. "The Baton Rouge we >>>>>>>> live in and grew up in is no longer," said city councilman >>>>>>>> Mike Walker. "These people are here to stay, perhaps >>>>>>>> forever." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> City police chief Jeff Leduff said buses and volunteer >>>>>>>> drivers Wednesday evening began picking up stranded New >>>>>>>> Orleans residents from the highways and then "just dropping >>>>>>>> them off wherever they see a gaggle of lights, any >>>>>>>> neighborhood, any store." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> About 3,000 refugees suddenly appeared about midnight on >>>>>>>> the campus of Louisiana State University, where a shelter >>>>>>>> already was at capacity. They were turned away. Most of >>>>>>>> those 3,000 eventually made their way to the emergency >>>>>>>> rooms of the area's three biggest hospitals, where "they >>>>>>>> created extreme chaos and disturbance" throughout the >>>>>>>> night, said Dr. Louis Minsky, medical director for East >>>>>>>> Baton Rouge parish. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There were reports of attempted carjackings at 24-hour gas >>>>>>>> stations. Authorities decided to impose a 10 p.m. cutoff >>>>>>>> for gas sales. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sheriff's deputies were dispatched as armed guards for >>>>>>>> grocery warehouses, and police stepped up around-the-clock >>>>>>>> controls downtown, where Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco, >>>>>>>> Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and FEMA director Michael Brown >>>>>>>> are hunkered down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shortly before noon Thursday, police and SWAT teams with >>>>>>>> automatic weapons moved to secure several city blocks near >>>>>>>> the largest shelter, the River Center, which houses about >>>>>>>> 5,000 refugees. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Officials made a decision to allow non-essential workers >>>>>>>> from the city government building to go home for the day, >>>>>>>> said Michael Smith, a spokesman for the emergency >>>>>>>> operations center here, and officers escorted those who >>>>>>>> left to their cars. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "We called for additional sheriffs and city police to >>>>>>>> secure the area and let those people out," he said. He said >>>>>>>> rumors of looting and mayhem were unfounded and were spread >>>>>>>> through local talk radio. Officials here, he said, hope the >>>>>>>> display of force would show that government here, unlike in >>>>>>>> New Orleans, was in control. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The parish has several Red Cross-run shelters already >>>>>>>> filled up with at least 10,000 people, and security is an >>>>>>>> increasing problem in them, as well as a strain on >>>>>>>> paramedic responders. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Everybody in the River Center," the largest shelter, "has >>>>>>>> a cell phone, and when they run out of medicine, they just >>>>>>>> call 911," said a spokesman for the city's emergency >>>>>>>> services department. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With a new month beginning Thursday, hundreds of the newly >>>>>>>> homeless and poor crowded up the area's food-stamp offices >>>>>>>> to start applications. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In addition, others are coming to town looking for >>>>>>>> opportunity. "People are showing up with suitcases and >>>>>>>> suitcases of cash, offering to buy houses and real estate >>>>>>>> on the spot," said Walker, who is also a real estate >>>>>>>> broker. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On top of all that, 55,000 customers remain without power >>>>>>>> throughout the parish, the schools remain closed through >>>>>>>> Tuesday and traffic is jammed and stores are overrun. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In a morning briefing at the Emergency Command Center near >>>>>>>> the airport, nearly two dozen officials from every public >>>>>>>> agency gave updates and shared information, as they have >>>>>>>> each day since before Katrina struck. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Every change in plans has a ripple effect into every other >>>>>>>> agency, said Irma Plummer, the chief administrative officer >>>>>>>> for East Baton Rouge Parrish, in unanticipated ways. >>>>>>>> "People come here and find they have no money, and all the >>>>>>>> agencies on this corridor are going to be affected," she >>>>>>>> told the group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The domino effect is tremendous. We can't move fast enough >>>>>>>> to rebuild our infrastructure to respond, so you have to be >>>>>>>> creative." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, what is your life like right now? Are you going to >>>>>>> work? Do you feel safe when you leave the house (or, DO you >>>>>>> leave the house)? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not too bad. There are 10 people living at my house right >>>>>> now. Besides us there is my mother and my sister and her >>>>>> family. Hopefully, they will have power back early next week. >>>>>> I came back to work yesterday. I'm ok leaving the house but >>>>>> I am not too crazy about letting Deb go out with the kids. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rightly so. I wouldn't want to take one step outside if I >>>>> were in that area (but what do I know? I study crime for a >>>>> living). >>>>> >>>>> We just found out last night that all of our extended family >>>>> in NO didn't get out in time, and of course we have no way to >>>>> make contact with them... >>>> >>>> What part of town did they live in? >>>> >>> >>> I, of course, mean waht part of town do they live in. >>> I am just assuming they aren't currently at home. >> >> >> I know--it's hard to know if their homes even exist anymore. >> >> I think the folks in Metarie are all out. I only know the rest >> of the family has New Orleans mailing addresses--I've never >> visited, only seen them at weddings & stuff. It's my husband's >> family. >> >> I believe the family synagogue is Temple Sinai (6227 Charles St >> according to their web page), and I think some of our relatives >> live nearby. > > > Just searched Switchboard for a couple family names--one uncle > lives on Loyola, about midway between the Superdome and Canal St. > I'm praying he & his wife left before the storm hit--I can't > imagine anything in that area is currently safe. Well, there was a period of time in which you could still make it out of there after the storm but before the water got too bad. Hopefully, they used that time to get out. Don't be too worried about not hearing from them. Communications are still really difficult around here. .