Subj : Re: Serenity: My Thoughtful Review To : alt.tv.farscape From : Tyler Trafford Date : Tue Oct 04 2005 17:09:01 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote: > Rick Savoia wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote in >> news:Xns96E4C0767C0B83v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >> >>> weirdwolf wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>> news:Xns96E4BD53C9BC53v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>> >>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns96E4BAE389D1E3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>> >>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4B521EB7BE3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4B19C342FD3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4ACA194E163v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4AC9D1F629rsavoiaNOSPAMyahooco@127.0.0.1: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:K_SdnR1O1_e93tzeRVn-jg@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RR wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got Disc 1 at the top of my Netflix queue and I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to try and check out the flick this week despite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The movie is probably just fine on its own. However, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain events lose some of their impact if you haven't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been along for the (regrettably short) ride. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really would think that it would *have* to stand alone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be worthy of having been made on such a scale. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show's incredibly short run probably made that a fairly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy thing to accomplish. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually there is a little time lapsed between the end of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the series, beginning of the movie, and the characters, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while unchanged they have been dialed up a 'little' to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recreate tensions that were alleviated in time during the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> series. The time lapse is sufficient for series watchers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to understand things are strained 'again' and for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-series viewers to have tension and conflict to pin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the story on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sci Fi had been running the eps on Fridays, and had a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marathon recently of eps... BUT, you should be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk into the theater without having seen the series, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first twenty minutes are laden with enough character >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialogue and camera/characters-still-moving exposition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to let you know who everyone is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned here, they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolved the Galaxy / Solar System conundrum, the Pilot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> originally said one thing, the Series said another. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movie has picked Solar System. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar System just doesn't seem big enough though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even if you have a solar system of a reasonable size, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just seems too small to support the multiple planets and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moons they've been to as well as the concept of something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the Alliance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's also very hard to lose a planet in a Solar System. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it were just a Solar System, I'd have pictured the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reavers overrunning the place by now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I always thought they were in a cluster of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar systems with a few terraformed planets/moons in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats what I thought when I heard about the change, why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick to pulling >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bankjobs in California when you can go to Bolivia? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you need FTL drives to go to Bolivia. Anyway, >>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone knows what happens in Bolivia... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And they say Americans know nothing about world geography! >>>>>>>>>>>> So we are fine with space travel, terra forming and psychic >>>>>>>>>>>> assasins but not ok with FTL travel? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Prexactly! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Right, fine, ok, just so long as I know where to >>>>>>>>>>>> draw the line of sensibleness in the sand of made up stuff. >>>>>>>>>>>> We wouldn't want to cross that line now would we, even if it >>>>>>>>>>>> was by using the z axis. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Damn right. That way lies madness. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Soooo just how did all those people get to a solar system that >>>>>>>>>> is third star from the right and keep on till dawn, without FTL >>>>>>>>>> travel? A sprinkling of fairy dust? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well obviously it was magic. Sheesh. Someone people...gotta >>>>>>>>> explain every little thing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (A single one way trip taking maybe a couple of decades or a >>>>>>>>> couple of centuries with most of a seed population in cold >>>>>>>>> storage is a different thing than zipping back and forth between >>>>>>>>> solar systems every five minutes.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well to get to alpha centuri at light speed would take what 4.3 >>>>>>>> years so lets be generous and say you can travel at a fair old >>>>>>>> clip, 6 years say. >>>>>>>> OF course although AC is sun like so is it's companion and it >>>>>>>> has a red >>>>>>>> dwarf companion as well. Maybe not the ideal place to live. So we >>>>>>>> could look further afield. Barnards star, Wolf 359, Luyten 726-8 >>>>>>>> a and B,Ross 154 and Lalande 21185 are all red dwarfs. Sirius B >>>>>>>> is a white dwarf. Sirius A on the other hand is pretty damn hot >>>>>>>> at 10,000 degrees C and about twice as large as the sun.` >>>>>>>> We are 10+ light years out now and still looking.Unfortunately >>>>>>>> we have >>>>>>>> reached the limits of my knowledge anybody who's good at >>>>>>>> astronomy know where the nearest Earth like single star system >>>>>>>> is? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doesn't matter. We will posit that in the year 2123 the Chinindian >>>>>>> astronomer Mohandas Lu will have discovered the exact location of >>>>>>> the ideal replacement solar system. >>>>>> >>>>>> My first night at Mandarin lessons we were talking about syllables >>>>>> and >>>>>> practasing the Ai sound. The rather staid lady teaching us was >>>>>> saying that it was used in combination to make an impolite word. I >>>>>> of course without engaging my brain went "oh! you mean Aima!" >>>>>> Stoopid Firefly swearing getting me into trouble. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This alone would have established the rockitude of Firefly, had it >>>>> needed establishing. >>>>> >>>>> (What does it mean?) >>>> >>>> Er,bugger I meant to type Aiya, it means something like damn. >>>> >>>>>>>> Of course even in slow than light ships with a stasised crew you >>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>> take enough food/water so that you can feed everybody whiile you >>>>>>>> are terra forming the planets.Which would take years. Oh and you >>>>>>>> would have >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Autonomous terraforming. People stay in stasis until it's done for >>>>>>> at least a few planets. Robots don't get bored. >>>>>> >>>>>> If only! The Robot Williams model may have self distructed rather >>>>>> inflict such harm on the humans that went to see his version of the >>>>>> Asimov story. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Asimov's robots were pansies. >>>>> >>>>>>>> to work out how big a population you would have to bring so that >>>>>>>> inbreeding didn't reduce your pioneers to such a state that they >>>>>>>> are distracted by shiny things, become enamoured by their swine, >>>>>>>> play the banjo and develop funny accents. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Super neato-keen genetic engineering = no more problems with >>>>>>> limited gene pool. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And yet you still have trouble with FTL travel... >>>>> >>>>> Yes. sn-kge is an extrapolation of existing science. FTL requires a >>>>> refutation of relativity or some funky yet massive paradigm shift. >>>>> Not saying it can't happen, but it is not the path of least >>>>> resistance, grasshopper. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Depends on how good peoples branes are. >>> >>> Branes are best with marinara sauce. mmmmmmbranesmmmmmmm >>> >> >> Thrakazogg? Is that you? >> > > Wha?!? (A reference from The Tick cartoon.) -- Tyler Trafford Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T after you. .