Subj : Re: Serenity: My Thoughtful Review To : alt.tv.farscape From : Jim Larson Date : Tue Oct 04 2005 16:00:31 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Rick Savoia wrote: > Jim Larson wrote in > news:Xns96E4C0767C0B83v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: > >> weirdwolf wrote: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote in >>> news:Xns96E4BD53C9BC53v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>> >>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>> news:Xns96E4BAE389D1E3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>> >>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>>> news:Xns96E4B521EB7BE3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4B19C342FD3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4ACA194E163v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4AC9D1F629rsavoiaNOSPAMyahooco@127.0.0.1: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:K_SdnR1O1_e93tzeRVn-jg@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RR wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got Disc 1 at the top of my Netflix queue and I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to try and check out the flick this week despite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The movie is probably just fine on its own. However, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain events lose some of their impact if you haven't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been along for the (regrettably short) ride. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really would think that it would *have* to stand alone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be worthy of having been made on such a scale. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show's incredibly short run probably made that a fairly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy thing to accomplish. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually there is a little time lapsed between the end of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the series, beginning of the movie, and the characters, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while unchanged they have been dialed up a 'little' to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recreate tensions that were alleviated in time during the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> series. The time lapse is sufficient for series watchers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to understand things are strained 'again' and for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-series viewers to have tension and conflict to pin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the story on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sci Fi had been running the eps on Fridays, and had a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marathon recently of eps... BUT, you should be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk into the theater without having seen the series, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first twenty minutes are laden with enough character >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialogue and camera/characters-still-moving exposition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to let you know who everyone is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned here, they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolved the Galaxy / Solar System conundrum, the Pilot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> originally said one thing, the Series said another. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movie has picked Solar System. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar System just doesn't seem big enough though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even if you have a solar system of a reasonable size, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just seems too small to support the multiple planets and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> moons they've been to as well as the concept of something >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the Alliance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's also very hard to lose a planet in a Solar System. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it were just a Solar System, I'd have pictured the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reavers overrunning the place by now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I always thought they were in a cluster of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar systems with a few terraformed planets/moons in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats what I thought when I heard about the change, why >>>>>>>>>>>>> stick to pulling >>>>>>>>>>>>> bankjobs in California when you can go to Bolivia? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Because you need FTL drives to go to Bolivia. Anyway, >>>>>>>>>>>> everyone knows what happens in Bolivia... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And they say Americans know nothing about world geography! >>>>>>>>>>> So we are fine with space travel, terra forming and psychic >>>>>>>>>>> assasins but not ok with FTL travel? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Prexactly! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Right, fine, ok, just so long as I know where to >>>>>>>>>>> draw the line of sensibleness in the sand of made up stuff. >>>>>>>>>>> We wouldn't want to cross that line now would we, even if it >>>>>>>>>>> was by using the z axis. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Damn right. That way lies madness. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Soooo just how did all those people get to a solar system that >>>>>>>>> is third star from the right and keep on till dawn, without FTL >>>>>>>>> travel? A sprinkling of fairy dust? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well obviously it was magic. Sheesh. Someone people...gotta >>>>>>>> explain every little thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (A single one way trip taking maybe a couple of decades or a >>>>>>>> couple of centuries with most of a seed population in cold >>>>>>>> storage is a different thing than zipping back and forth between >>>>>>>> solar systems every five minutes.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well to get to alpha centuri at light speed would take what 4.3 >>>>>>> years so lets be generous and say you can travel at a fair old >>>>>>> clip, 6 years say. >>>>>>> OF course although AC is sun like so is it's companion and it >>>>>>> has a red >>>>>>> dwarf companion as well. Maybe not the ideal place to live. So we >>>>>>> could look further afield. Barnards star, Wolf 359, Luyten 726-8 >>>>>>> a and B,Ross 154 and Lalande 21185 are all red dwarfs. Sirius B >>>>>>> is a white dwarf. Sirius A on the other hand is pretty damn hot >>>>>>> at 10,000 degrees C and about twice as large as the sun.` >>>>>>> We are 10+ light years out now and still looking.Unfortunately >>>>>>> we have >>>>>>> reached the limits of my knowledge anybody who's good at >>>>>>> astronomy know where the nearest Earth like single star system >>>>>>> is? >>>>>> >>>>>> Doesn't matter. We will posit that in the year 2123 the Chinindian >>>>>> astronomer Mohandas Lu will have discovered the exact location of >>>>>> the ideal replacement solar system. >>>>> >>>>> My first night at Mandarin lessons we were talking about syllables >>>>> and >>>>> practasing the Ai sound. The rather staid lady teaching us was >>>>> saying that it was used in combination to make an impolite word. I >>>>> of course without engaging my brain went "oh! you mean Aima!" >>>>> Stoopid Firefly swearing getting me into trouble. >>>>> >>>> >>>> This alone would have established the rockitude of Firefly, had it >>>> needed establishing. >>>> >>>> (What does it mean?) >>> >>> Er,bugger I meant to type Aiya, it means something like damn. >>> >>>>>>> Of course even in slow than light ships with a stasised crew you >>>>>>> have to >>>>>>> take enough food/water so that you can feed everybody whiile you >>>>>>> are terra forming the planets.Which would take years. Oh and you >>>>>>> would have >>>>>> >>>>>> Autonomous terraforming. People stay in stasis until it's done for >>>>>> at least a few planets. Robots don't get bored. >>>>> >>>>> If only! The Robot Williams model may have self distructed rather >>>>> inflict such harm on the humans that went to see his version of the >>>>> Asimov story. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Asimov's robots were pansies. >>>> >>>>>>> to work out how big a population you would have to bring so that >>>>>>> inbreeding didn't reduce your pioneers to such a state that they >>>>>>> are distracted by shiny things, become enamoured by their swine, >>>>>>> play the banjo and develop funny accents. >>>>>> >>>>>> Super neato-keen genetic engineering = no more problems with >>>>>> limited gene pool. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And yet you still have trouble with FTL travel... >>>> >>>> Yes. sn-kge is an extrapolation of existing science. FTL requires a >>>> refutation of relativity or some funky yet massive paradigm shift. >>>> Not saying it can't happen, but it is not the path of least >>>> resistance, grasshopper. >>>> >>> >>> Depends on how good peoples branes are. >> >> Branes are best with marinara sauce. mmmmmmbranesmmmmmmm >> > > Thrakazogg? Is that you? > Wha?!? -- Jim .