Subj : Re: Serenity: My Thoughtful Review To : alt.tv.farscape From : Rick Savoia Date : Tue Oct 04 2005 10:28:12 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape weirdwolf wrote in news:Xns96E51710C6977r73u67jw56nas@62.253.170.163: > Jim Larson wrote in > news:Xns96E4B521EB7BE3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: > >> weirdwolf wrote: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote in >>> news:Xns96E4B19C342FD3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>> >>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>> news:Xns96E4ACA194E163v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>> >>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote in >>>>>>> news:Xns96E4AC9D1F629rsavoiaNOSPAMyahooco@127.0.0.1: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>> news:K_SdnR1O1_e93tzeRVn-jg@comcast.com: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> RR wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've got Disc 1 at the top of my Netflix queue and I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> going to try and check out the flick this week despite my >>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The movie is probably just fine on its own. However, certain >>>>>>>>>>> events lose some of their impact if you haven't been along >>>>>>>>>>> for the (regrettably short) ride. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I really would think that it would *have* to stand alone to >>>>>>>>>> be worthy of having been made on such a scale. The show's >>>>>>>>>> incredibly short run probably made that a fairly easy thing >>>>>>>>>> to accomplish. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Actually there is a little time lapsed between the end of the >>>>>>>>> series, beginning of the movie, and the characters, while >>>>>>>>> unchanged they have been dialed up a 'little' to recreate >>>>>>>>> tensions that were alleviated in time during the series. The >>>>>>>>> time lapse is sufficient for series watchers to understand >>>>>>>>> things are strained 'again' and for non-series viewers to have >>>>>>>>> tension and conflict to pin the story on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sci Fi had been running the eps on Fridays, and had a marathon >>>>>>>>> recently of eps... BUT, you should be able to walk into the >>>>>>>>> theater without having seen the series, the first twenty >>>>>>>>> minutes are laden with enough character dialogue and >>>>>>>>> camera/characters-still-moving exposition enough to let you >>>>>>>>> know who everyone is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned here, they have >>>>>>>>> resolved the Galaxy / Solar System conundrum, the Pilot >>>>>>>>> originally said one thing, the Series said another. The movie >>>>>>>>> has picked Solar System. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Solar System just doesn't seem big enough though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Even if you have a solar system of a reasonable size, it just >>>>>>>> seems too small to support the multiple planets and moons >>>>>>>> they've been to as well as the concept of something like the >>>>>>>> Alliance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's also very hard to lose a planet in a Solar System. If it >>>>>>>> were just a Solar System, I'd have pictured the Reavers >>>>>>>> overrunning the place by now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally, I always thought they were in a cluster of Solar >>>>>>>> systems with a few terraformed planets/moons in each. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thats what I thought when I heard about the change, why stick >>>>>>> to pulling bankjobs in California when you can go to Bolivia? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because you need FTL drives to go to Bolivia. Anyway, everyone >>>>>> knows what happens in Bolivia... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And they say Americans know nothing about world geography! >>>>> So we are fine with space travel, terra forming and psychic >>>>> assasins but >>>>> not ok with FTL travel? >>>> >>>> Prexactly! >>>> >>>>> Right, fine, ok, just so long as I know where to >>>>> draw the line of sensibleness in the sand of made up stuff. We >>>>> wouldn't want to cross that line now would we, even if it was by >>>>> using the z axis. >>>> >>>> Damn right. That way lies madness. >>>> >>> >>> Soooo just how did all those people get to a solar system that is >>> third star from the right and keep on till dawn, without FTL travel? >>> A sprinkling of fairy dust? >> >> Well obviously it was magic. Sheesh. Someone people...gotta explain >> every little thing. >> >> (A single one way trip taking maybe a couple of decades or a couple >> of centuries with most of a seed population in cold storage is a >> different thing than zipping back and forth between solar systems >> every five minutes.) >> > > Well to get to alpha centuri at light speed would take what 4.3 years > so lets be generous and say you can travel at a fair old clip, 6 years > say. > OF course although AC is sun like so is it's companion and it has a > red > dwarf companion as well. Maybe not the ideal place to live. So we > could look further afield. Barnards star, Wolf 359, Luyten 726-8 a and > B,Ross 154 and Lalande 21185 are all red dwarfs. Sirius B is a white > dwarf. Sirius A on the other hand is pretty damn hot at 10,000 degrees > C and about twice as large as the sun.` > We are 10+ light years out now and still looking.Unfortunately we > have > reached the limits of my knowledge anybody who's good at astronomy > know where the nearest Earth like single star system is? > Of course even in slow than light ships with a stasised crew you have > to > take enough food/water so that you can feed everybody whiile you are > terra forming the planets.Which would take years. Oh and you would > have to work out how big a population you would have to bring so that > inbreeding didn't reduce your pioneers to such a state that they are > distracted by shiny things, become enamoured by their swine, play the > banjo and develop funny accents. > Ted > (I'm still liking my 'small cluster of stars with planets/moons to terraform' theory). -- "I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." - Calvin .