Subj : Re: Serenity: My Thoughtful Review To : alt.tv.farscape From : Tyler Trafford Date : Tue Oct 04 2005 02:50:39 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote: > Tyler Trafford wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote: >>> weirdwolf wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>> news:Xns96E4B521EB7BE3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>> >>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns96E4B19C342FD3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>> >>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4ACA194E163v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote in >>>>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4AC9D1F629rsavoiaNOSPAMyahooco@127.0.0.1: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:K_SdnR1O1_e93tzeRVn-jg@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> RR wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got Disc 1 at the top of my Netflix queue and I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to try and check out the flick this week despite my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The movie is probably just fine on its own. However, certain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> events lose some of their impact if you haven't been along >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the (regrettably short) ride. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I really would think that it would *have* to stand alone to >>>>>>>>>>>>> be worthy of having been made on such a scale. The show's >>>>>>>>>>>>> incredibly short run probably made that a fairly easy thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually there is a little time lapsed between the end of the >>>>>>>>>>>> series, beginning of the movie, and the characters, while >>>>>>>>>>>> unchanged they have been dialed up a 'little' to recreate >>>>>>>>>>>> tensions that were alleviated in time during the series. The >>>>>>>>>>>> time lapse is sufficient for series watchers to understand >>>>>>>>>>>> things are strained 'again' and for non-series viewers to have >>>>>>>>>>>> tension and conflict to pin the story on. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sci Fi had been running the eps on Fridays, and had a marathon >>>>>>>>>>>> recently of eps... BUT, you should be able to walk into the >>>>>>>>>>>> theater without having seen the series, the first twenty >>>>>>>>>>>> minutes are laden with enough character dialogue and >>>>>>>>>>>> camera/characters-still-moving exposition enough to let you >>>>>>>>>>>> know who everyone is. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned here, they have >>>>>>>>>>>> resolved the Galaxy / Solar System conundrum, the Pilot >>>>>>>>>>>> originally said one thing, the Series said another. The movie >>>>>>>>>>>> has picked Solar System. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Solar System just doesn't seem big enough though. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Even if you have a solar system of a reasonable size, it just >>>>>>>>>>> seems too small to support the multiple planets and moons >>>>>>>>>>> they've been to as well as the concept of something like the >>>>>>>>>>> Alliance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's also very hard to lose a planet in a Solar System. If it >>>>>>>>>>> were just a Solar System, I'd have pictured the Reavers >>>>>>>>>>> overrunning the place by now. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I always thought they were in a cluster of Solar >>>>>>>>>>> systems with a few terraformed planets/moons in each. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thats what I thought when I heard about the change, why stick >>>>>>>>>> to pulling >>>>>>>>>> bankjobs in California when you can go to Bolivia? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Because you need FTL drives to go to Bolivia. Anyway, everyone >>>>>>>>> knows what happens in Bolivia... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And they say Americans know nothing about world geography! >>>>>>>> So we are fine with space travel, terra forming and psychic >>>>>>>> assasins but >>>>>>>> not ok with FTL travel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Prexactly! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right, fine, ok, just so long as I know where to >>>>>>>> draw the line of sensibleness in the sand of made up stuff. We >>>>>>>> wouldn't want to cross that line now would we, even if it was by >>>>>>>> using the z axis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Damn right. That way lies madness. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Soooo just how did all those people get to a solar system that is >>>>>> third star from the right and keep on till dawn, without FTL travel? >>>>>> A sprinkling of fairy dust? >>>>> >>>>> Well obviously it was magic. Sheesh. Someone people...gotta explain >>>>> every little thing. >>>>> >>>>> (A single one way trip taking maybe a couple of decades or a couple >>>>> of centuries with most of a seed population in cold storage is a >>>>> different thing than zipping back and forth between solar systems >>>>> every five minutes.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> Well to get to alpha centuri at light speed would take what 4.3 years >>>> so lets be generous and say you can travel at a fair old clip, 6 years >>>> say. >>>> OF course although AC is sun like so is it's companion and it has a >>>> red >>>> dwarf companion as well. Maybe not the ideal place to live. So we >>>> could look further afield. Barnards star, Wolf 359, Luyten 726-8 a and >>>> B,Ross 154 and Lalande 21185 are all red dwarfs. Sirius B is a white >>>> dwarf. Sirius A on the other hand is pretty damn hot at 10,000 degrees >>>> C and about twice as large as the sun.` >>>> We are 10+ light years out now and still looking.Unfortunately we >>>> have >>>> reached the limits of my knowledge anybody who's good at astronomy >>>> know where the nearest Earth like single star system is? >>> >>> Doesn't matter. We will posit that in the year 2123 the Chinindian >>> astronomer Mohandas Lu will have discovered the exact location of the >>> ideal replacement solar system. >>> >>>> Of course even in slow than light ships with a stasised crew you have >>>> to >>>> take enough food/water so that you can feed everybody whiile you are >>>> terra forming the planets.Which would take years. Oh and you would >>>> have >>> >>> Autonomous terraforming. People stay in stasis until it's done for at >>> least a few planets. Robots don't get bored. >> >> In Firefly they did it (were still doing it) with slave labor. > > You only need to terraform one planet that way. Then you establish a > population base and get all your nice slave labor for expansion. > > (Of course, slavery is stupid when you have robots, but who am I to tell the > Alliance how to run their business.) > > ((Who indeed. I'll show those smug Alliance bastards. MY solar system will be > managed properly!)) http://www-robotics.cs.umass.edu/segway/ -- Tyler Trafford The important thing is not to stop questioning. .