Subj : Re: Serenity: My Thoughtful Review To : alt.tv.farscape From : Jim Larson Date : Tue Oct 04 2005 02:42:04 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Tyler Trafford wrote: > Jim Larson wrote: >> weirdwolf wrote: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote in >>> news:Xns96E4B521EB7BE3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>> >>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>> news:Xns96E4B19C342FD3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>> >>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>>> news:Xns96E4ACA194E163v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4AC9D1F629rsavoiaNOSPAMyahooco@127.0.0.1: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>> news:K_SdnR1O1_e93tzeRVn-jg@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> RR wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got Disc 1 at the top of my Netflix queue and I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to try and check out the flick this week despite my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The movie is probably just fine on its own. However, certain >>>>>>>>>>>>> events lose some of their impact if you haven't been along >>>>>>>>>>>>> for the (regrettably short) ride. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I really would think that it would *have* to stand alone to >>>>>>>>>>>> be worthy of having been made on such a scale. The show's >>>>>>>>>>>> incredibly short run probably made that a fairly easy thing >>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually there is a little time lapsed between the end of the >>>>>>>>>>> series, beginning of the movie, and the characters, while >>>>>>>>>>> unchanged they have been dialed up a 'little' to recreate >>>>>>>>>>> tensions that were alleviated in time during the series. The >>>>>>>>>>> time lapse is sufficient for series watchers to understand >>>>>>>>>>> things are strained 'again' and for non-series viewers to have >>>>>>>>>>> tension and conflict to pin the story on. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sci Fi had been running the eps on Fridays, and had a marathon >>>>>>>>>>> recently of eps... BUT, you should be able to walk into the >>>>>>>>>>> theater without having seen the series, the first twenty >>>>>>>>>>> minutes are laden with enough character dialogue and >>>>>>>>>>> camera/characters-still-moving exposition enough to let you >>>>>>>>>>> know who everyone is. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned here, they have >>>>>>>>>>> resolved the Galaxy / Solar System conundrum, the Pilot >>>>>>>>>>> originally said one thing, the Series said another. The movie >>>>>>>>>>> has picked Solar System. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Solar System just doesn't seem big enough though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Even if you have a solar system of a reasonable size, it just >>>>>>>>>> seems too small to support the multiple planets and moons >>>>>>>>>> they've been to as well as the concept of something like the >>>>>>>>>> Alliance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's also very hard to lose a planet in a Solar System. If it >>>>>>>>>> were just a Solar System, I'd have pictured the Reavers >>>>>>>>>> overrunning the place by now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Personally, I always thought they were in a cluster of Solar >>>>>>>>>> systems with a few terraformed planets/moons in each. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thats what I thought when I heard about the change, why stick >>>>>>>>> to pulling >>>>>>>>> bankjobs in California when you can go to Bolivia? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because you need FTL drives to go to Bolivia. Anyway, everyone >>>>>>>> knows what happens in Bolivia... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And they say Americans know nothing about world geography! >>>>>>> So we are fine with space travel, terra forming and psychic >>>>>>> assasins but >>>>>>> not ok with FTL travel? >>>>>> >>>>>> Prexactly! >>>>>> >>>>>>> Right, fine, ok, just so long as I know where to >>>>>>> draw the line of sensibleness in the sand of made up stuff. We >>>>>>> wouldn't want to cross that line now would we, even if it was by >>>>>>> using the z axis. >>>>>> >>>>>> Damn right. That way lies madness. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Soooo just how did all those people get to a solar system that is >>>>> third star from the right and keep on till dawn, without FTL travel? >>>>> A sprinkling of fairy dust? >>>> >>>> Well obviously it was magic. Sheesh. Someone people...gotta explain >>>> every little thing. >>>> >>>> (A single one way trip taking maybe a couple of decades or a couple >>>> of centuries with most of a seed population in cold storage is a >>>> different thing than zipping back and forth between solar systems >>>> every five minutes.) >>>> >>> >>> Well to get to alpha centuri at light speed would take what 4.3 years >>> so lets be generous and say you can travel at a fair old clip, 6 years >>> say. >>> OF course although AC is sun like so is it's companion and it has a >>> red >>> dwarf companion as well. Maybe not the ideal place to live. So we >>> could look further afield. Barnards star, Wolf 359, Luyten 726-8 a and >>> B,Ross 154 and Lalande 21185 are all red dwarfs. Sirius B is a white >>> dwarf. Sirius A on the other hand is pretty damn hot at 10,000 degrees >>> C and about twice as large as the sun.` >>> We are 10+ light years out now and still looking.Unfortunately we >>> have >>> reached the limits of my knowledge anybody who's good at astronomy >>> know where the nearest Earth like single star system is? >> >> Doesn't matter. We will posit that in the year 2123 the Chinindian >> astronomer Mohandas Lu will have discovered the exact location of the >> ideal replacement solar system. >> >>> Of course even in slow than light ships with a stasised crew you have >>> to >>> take enough food/water so that you can feed everybody whiile you are >>> terra forming the planets.Which would take years. Oh and you would >>> have >> >> Autonomous terraforming. People stay in stasis until it's done for at >> least a few planets. Robots don't get bored. > > In Firefly they did it (were still doing it) with slave labor. You only need to terraform one planet that way. Then you establish a population base and get all your nice slave labor for expansion. (Of course, slavery is stupid when you have robots, but who am I to tell the Alliance how to run their business.) ((Who indeed. I'll show those smug Alliance bastards. MY solar system will be managed properly!)) -- Jim .