Subj : Re: Serenity: My Thoughtful Review To : alt.tv.farscape From : Tyler Trafford Date : Tue Oct 04 2005 02:38:52 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote: > weirdwolf wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote in >> news:Xns96E4B521EB7BE3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >> >>> weirdwolf wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>> news:Xns96E4B19C342FD3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>> >>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns96E4ACA194E163v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>> >>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote in >>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4AC9D1F629rsavoiaNOSPAMyahooco@127.0.0.1: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:K_SdnR1O1_e93tzeRVn-jg@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RR wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got Disc 1 at the top of my Netflix queue and I'm going >>>>>>>>>>>>> to try and check out the flick this week despite my >>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The movie is probably just fine on its own. However, certain >>>>>>>>>>>> events lose some of their impact if you haven't been along >>>>>>>>>>>> for the (regrettably short) ride. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I really would think that it would *have* to stand alone to be >>>>>>>>>>> worthy of having been made on such a scale. The show's >>>>>>>>>>> incredibly short run probably made that a fairly easy thing to >>>>>>>>>>> accomplish. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Actually there is a little time lapsed between the end of the >>>>>>>>>> series, beginning of the movie, and the characters, while >>>>>>>>>> unchanged they have been dialed up a 'little' to recreate >>>>>>>>>> tensions that were alleviated in time during the series. The >>>>>>>>>> time lapse is sufficient for series watchers to understand >>>>>>>>>> things are strained 'again' and for non-series viewers to have >>>>>>>>>> tension and conflict to pin the story on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sci Fi had been running the eps on Fridays, and had a marathon >>>>>>>>>> recently of eps... BUT, you should be able to walk into the >>>>>>>>>> theater without having seen the series, the first twenty >>>>>>>>>> minutes are laden with enough character dialogue and >>>>>>>>>> camera/characters-still-moving exposition enough to let you >>>>>>>>>> know who everyone is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned here, they have >>>>>>>>>> resolved the Galaxy / Solar System conundrum, the Pilot >>>>>>>>>> originally said one thing, the Series said another. The movie >>>>>>>>>> has picked Solar System. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Solar System just doesn't seem big enough though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even if you have a solar system of a reasonable size, it just >>>>>>>>> seems too small to support the multiple planets and moons >>>>>>>>> they've been to as well as the concept of something like the >>>>>>>>> Alliance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's also very hard to lose a planet in a Solar System. If it >>>>>>>>> were just a Solar System, I'd have pictured the Reavers >>>>>>>>> overrunning the place by now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I always thought they were in a cluster of Solar >>>>>>>>> systems with a few terraformed planets/moons in each. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thats what I thought when I heard about the change, why stick to >>>>>>>> pulling >>>>>>>> bankjobs in California when you can go to Bolivia? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because you need FTL drives to go to Bolivia. Anyway, everyone >>>>>>> knows what happens in Bolivia... >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And they say Americans know nothing about world geography! >>>>>> So we are fine with space travel, terra forming and psychic >>>>>> assasins but >>>>>> not ok with FTL travel? >>>>> >>>>> Prexactly! >>>>> >>>>>> Right, fine, ok, just so long as I know where to >>>>>> draw the line of sensibleness in the sand of made up stuff. We >>>>>> wouldn't want to cross that line now would we, even if it was by >>>>>> using the z axis. >>>>> >>>>> Damn right. That way lies madness. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Soooo just how did all those people get to a solar system that is >>>> third star from the right and keep on till dawn, without FTL travel? >>>> A sprinkling of fairy dust? >>> >>> Well obviously it was magic. Sheesh. Someone people...gotta explain >>> every little thing. >>> >>> (A single one way trip taking maybe a couple of decades or a couple of >>> centuries with most of a seed population in cold storage is a >>> different thing than zipping back and forth between solar systems >>> every five minutes.) >>> >> >> Well to get to alpha centuri at light speed would take what 4.3 years so >> lets be generous and say you can travel at a fair old clip, 6 years say. >> OF course although AC is sun like so is it's companion and it has a red >> dwarf companion as well. Maybe not the ideal place to live. So we could >> look further afield. Barnards star, Wolf 359, Luyten 726-8 a and B,Ross >> 154 and Lalande 21185 are all red dwarfs. Sirius B is a white dwarf. >> Sirius A on the other hand is pretty damn hot at 10,000 degrees C and >> about twice as large as the sun.` >> We are 10+ light years out now and still looking.Unfortunately we have >> reached the limits of my knowledge anybody who's good at astronomy know >> where the nearest Earth like single star system is? > > Doesn't matter. We will posit that in the year 2123 the Chinindian astronomer > Mohandas Lu will have discovered the exact location of the ideal replacement > solar system. > >> Of course even in slow than light ships with a stasised crew you have to >> take enough food/water so that you can feed everybody whiile you are >> terra forming the planets.Which would take years. Oh and you would have > > Autonomous terraforming. People stay in stasis until it's done for at least a > few planets. Robots don't get bored. In Firefly they did it (were still doing it) with slave labor. -- Tyler Trafford So many men, so many opinions; every one his own way. -- Publius Terentius Afer (Terence) .