Subj : Re: Serenity: My Thoughtful Review To : alt.tv.farscape From : weirdwolf Date : Tue Oct 04 2005 02:27:16 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote in news:Xns96E4BAE389D1E3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: > weirdwolf wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote in >> news:Xns96E4B521EB7BE3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >> >>> weirdwolf wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>> news:Xns96E4B19C342FD3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>> >>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns96E4ACA194E163v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>>>> >>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote in >>>>>>>> news:Xns96E4AC9D1F629rsavoiaNOSPAMyahooco@127.0.0.1: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:K_SdnR1O1_e93tzeRVn-jg@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RR wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got Disc 1 at the top of my Netflix queue and I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>> going to try and check out the flick this week despite my >>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The movie is probably just fine on its own. However, >>>>>>>>>>>> certain events lose some of their impact if you haven't >>>>>>>>>>>> been along for the (regrettably short) ride. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I really would think that it would *have* to stand alone to >>>>>>>>>>> be worthy of having been made on such a scale. The show's >>>>>>>>>>> incredibly short run probably made that a fairly easy thing >>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Actually there is a little time lapsed between the end of the >>>>>>>>>> series, beginning of the movie, and the characters, while >>>>>>>>>> unchanged they have been dialed up a 'little' to recreate >>>>>>>>>> tensions that were alleviated in time during the series. The >>>>>>>>>> time lapse is sufficient for series watchers to understand >>>>>>>>>> things are strained 'again' and for non-series viewers to >>>>>>>>>> have tension and conflict to pin the story on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sci Fi had been running the eps on Fridays, and had a >>>>>>>>>> marathon recently of eps... BUT, you should be able to walk >>>>>>>>>> into the theater without having seen the series, the first >>>>>>>>>> twenty minutes are laden with enough character dialogue and >>>>>>>>>> camera/characters-still-moving exposition enough to let you >>>>>>>>>> know who everyone is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned here, they have >>>>>>>>>> resolved the Galaxy / Solar System conundrum, the Pilot >>>>>>>>>> originally said one thing, the Series said another. The movie >>>>>>>>>> has picked Solar System. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Solar System just doesn't seem big enough though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even if you have a solar system of a reasonable size, it just >>>>>>>>> seems too small to support the multiple planets and moons >>>>>>>>> they've been to as well as the concept of something like the >>>>>>>>> Alliance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's also very hard to lose a planet in a Solar System. If it >>>>>>>>> were just a Solar System, I'd have pictured the Reavers >>>>>>>>> overrunning the place by now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I always thought they were in a cluster of Solar >>>>>>>>> systems with a few terraformed planets/moons in each. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thats what I thought when I heard about the change, why stick >>>>>>>> to pulling >>>>>>>> bankjobs in California when you can go to Bolivia? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because you need FTL drives to go to Bolivia. Anyway, everyone >>>>>>> knows what happens in Bolivia... >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And they say Americans know nothing about world geography! >>>>>> So we are fine with space travel, terra forming and psychic >>>>>> assasins but >>>>>> not ok with FTL travel? >>>>> >>>>> Prexactly! >>>>> >>>>>> Right, fine, ok, just so long as I know where to >>>>>> draw the line of sensibleness in the sand of made up stuff. We >>>>>> wouldn't want to cross that line now would we, even if it was by >>>>>> using the z axis. >>>>> >>>>> Damn right. That way lies madness. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Soooo just how did all those people get to a solar system that is >>>> third star from the right and keep on till dawn, without FTL >>>> travel? A sprinkling of fairy dust? >>> >>> Well obviously it was magic. Sheesh. Someone people...gotta explain >>> every little thing. >>> >>> (A single one way trip taking maybe a couple of decades or a couple >>> of centuries with most of a seed population in cold storage is a >>> different thing than zipping back and forth between solar systems >>> every five minutes.) >>> >> >> Well to get to alpha centuri at light speed would take what 4.3 years >> so lets be generous and say you can travel at a fair old clip, 6 >> years say. >> OF course although AC is sun like so is it's companion and it has a >> red >> dwarf companion as well. Maybe not the ideal place to live. So we >> could look further afield. Barnards star, Wolf 359, Luyten 726-8 a >> and B,Ross 154 and Lalande 21185 are all red dwarfs. Sirius B is a >> white dwarf. Sirius A on the other hand is pretty damn hot at 10,000 >> degrees C and about twice as large as the sun.` >> We are 10+ light years out now and still looking.Unfortunately we >> have >> reached the limits of my knowledge anybody who's good at astronomy >> know where the nearest Earth like single star system is? > > Doesn't matter. We will posit that in the year 2123 the Chinindian > astronomer Mohandas Lu will have discovered the exact location of the > ideal replacement solar system. My first night at Mandarin lessons we were talking about syllables and practasing the Ai sound. The rather staid lady teaching us was saying that it was used in combination to make an impolite word. I of course without engaging my brain went "oh! you mean Aima!" Stoopid Firefly swearing getting me into trouble. >> Of course even in slow than light ships with a stasised crew you >> have to >> take enough food/water so that you can feed everybody whiile you are >> terra forming the planets.Which would take years. Oh and you would >> have > > Autonomous terraforming. People stay in stasis until it's done for at > least a few planets. Robots don't get bored. If only! The Robot Williams model may have self distructed rather inflict such harm on the humans that went to see his version of the Asimov story. >> to work out how big a population you would have to bring so that >> inbreeding didn't reduce your pioneers to such a state that they are >> distracted by shiny things, become enamoured by their swine, play the >> banjo and develop funny accents. > > Super neato-keen genetic engineering = no more problems with limited > gene pool. > And yet you still have trouble with FTL travel... Ted -- Stare too long into the abyss and the abyss looks like a nifty place to hide the bodies .