Subj : Re: Larry King To : alt.tv.farscape From : weirdwolf Date : Thu Sep 01 2005 06:12:31 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote in news:Xns96C3DF2C494A53v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: > weirdwolf wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote in >> news:Xns96C3DB07E9FFE3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >> >>> weirdwolf wrote: >>> >>>> "Finnigann" wrote in >>>> news:43166C69.329.farscape@bnb.synchro.net: >>>> >>>>> To: weirdwolf >>>>> -=> weirdwolf wrote to alt.tv.farscape <=- >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> we> OK say for example he had invaded a country for no reason.. >>>>> we> damn..er..say for example it was found that he was a >>>>> we> deserter....shit..ok.. third times the charm... say for >>>>> example he lied we> to the senate...bugger this is more difficult >>>>> than it seems... OOO I've we> got a good one.. say for example he >>>>> had completely crippled the we> national eco..n..o.my... >>>>> we> Right, fine, we will forget the reason why just imagine they >>>>> wanted to we> force him out of office. Is there a way that they >>>>> could do it and has we> it been done before? My rather dodgy >>>>> memory and obvious lack of we> knowledge can't seem to come up >>>>> with an example of it happening. we> Ted >>>>> >>>>> Nixon? >>>> >>>> Nixon wasn't forced out by his own party,he was staring >>>> impeachment in >>>> the face and fell on his own sword because he knew that he could >>>> never put up a credible defence in the face of the evidence that >>>> had mounted up.It was a case of outright criminal activity, I'm >>>> talking more about a leader who has fallen out of favour with their >>>> own party due to unpopular political decisions like Thatcher. >>> >>> Andrew Johnson. >>> >> >> The only other president impeached right? the guy who had problems >> due to his firing a chap whos name I forget in the war ministry >> without the consent of the senate which was required because he had >> tenure. I know it was more of an excuse because he had vetoed a few >> other bills to do with reconstruction. See before 1945 so I at least >> know the basics. He was aquited though despite breaking the letter of >> the law. > > That's the bunny. > >> I was wondering more about the case of them just falling out of >> favour, >> not actually breaking the law. Say for instance that the unpopular >> vetos were all that were available to Johnsons detractors without the >> ability to impeach him for the law breaking in the case of the >> tenure legislation not matter how tenuous it was is their a way that >> the president could be removed? > > I don't think there's any provision to do anything of the sort. I > think it's one of the fundamental differences between an elected > presidency in a strong executive branch[1] vs. a premiership drawn > from the legislature. Blergh, we have been heading for a more presidential system for a while now. I really do not like the idea of minimising the contribution of cabinet ministers. I do rather like your regulations on who you can pick for cabinet posts though. Ted -- Stare too long into the abyss and the abyss looks like a nifty place to hide the bodies .