Subj : Re: Larry King To : alt.tv.farscape From : weirdwolf Date : Thu Sep 01 2005 05:13:45 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote in news:Xns96C3D340B92753v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: > weirdwolf wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote in >> news:Xns96C3CFB8D5E1B3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >> >>> weirdwolf wrote: >>> >>>> K wrote in >>>> news:Xns96C3E88818FFDnotmenotherecom@216.196.97.142: >>>> >>>>> weirdwolf wrote in >>>>> news:Xns96C3D5E9893Cr73u67jw56nas@80.5.182.99: >>>>> >>>>>> John I wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns96C3872A955FBoiwhnanri@66.26.32.7: >>>>>> >>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote in >>>>>>>> news:Xns96C2E940491E7joiwhnanri@66.26.32.7: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote in >>>>>>>>>> news:Xns96C2DACBD390Ejoiwhnanri@ 66.26.32.8: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's time he was plastinated and put on a shelf. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>>>> I mean give us a clue, I don't even get Brit tv let alone >>>>>>>>>> whatever passes >>>>>>>>>> for entertainment over there. >>>>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have you ever seen the Martin Short parody of a talk-show >>>>>>>>> host? LK is indistinguishable from the parody. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh dear, I've not seen the sketch,(never ben to impressed with >>>>>>>> short,) >>>>>>>> but I think I can have a guess at the contents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be funny if he wasn't >>>>>>>>> asking shell shocked Katrina survivors what they plan to do >>>>>>>>> with the rest of their lives. It's only been 1 day. These >>>>>>>>> people fled with the clothes on their back. They can barely >>>>>>>>> conprehend how to find their next meal, much less what they >>>>>>>>> are going to do 6 months from now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I see somebody stated that it was America's tsunami. I know >>>>>>>> people have >>>>>>>> been killed and homes lost but blimey over react much? I know >>>>>>>> hundred odd dead but there was warning and the U.S. has a hell >>>>>>>> of a lot better response and rebuilding facilities. >>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The strongest theme for the failure to evacuate story is simple >>>>>>> poverty: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2005/08/index.html#007548 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm well I'ld need better proof than somebodies blog. >>>>> >>>>> Would you take the word of somebody who has seen the poverty of >>>>> New Orleans up close? It is one of my favorite towns, and I am >>>>> still awaiting word of the fate of friend who lives (or lived) on >>>>> the south shore of Lake Pontchartrain. The poverty rate of the >>>>> city is close to 30%, IIRC. These are people who, if they have a >>>>> car,don't have the $40 needed to fill up the tank to get stranded >>>>> on the I-10. >>>>> They have so little, they are willing to risk there lives to >>>>> protect it,because they have no way of replacing it. >>>> >>>> You see thats the attitude I don't understand. Me, I like being >>>> alive >>>> much more than I do a book or a computer. Stuff is just that, >>>> stuff, whether you have a lot or a little, it's not worth sticking >>>> around risking your life for. >>> >>> Yes, but you live in one of those hoity-toity, high falutin' >>> socialist welfare state that will see to it you don't die in the >>> streets if worse comes to worst. >> >> Trust me on this, our government is nowhere near socialist. If you >> are >> deemed unfit to work by your doctor you can apply to be on incapacity >> benefit. Every year you are then examined by a doctor under the >> employ of the goverment. A few years back I was told that I was fit >> for work and that I had to report the unemployment office. When I got >> there the womans exact words were "Oh god not another one," >> apparently this doctor was taking the governments wish to cut down on >> the number of people on incapacity benefit to heart. The person in >> the queue before me had terminal cancer but was still fit to work >> according to her. I appealed against the decision to an independent >> tribunal and got a hearing date months down the line. For my sheer >> audacity in appealing the goverment deem it right that the lowest >> rate help that you can get in this period is cut further. You get the >> difference back if you win the appeal, but all the time I was waiting >> I didn't have enough money to pay my bills, I ran up a huge >> overdraught at the bank just paying my mortgauge and bills for food >> etc. Welcome to our socialist utopia. >> > > I hope you dangled your penile implant at the bastards. I didn't have it at the time. It's damn embaressing, the laugh is that it's the governments own fault so many people are on it. When the pits were closed down rather than put the miners on unemployment benefit which shows up on the figures they shoved them onto incapacity benefit to massage the figures a trick repeated over the years until they realise that people who are on incapacity benefit for more than 2 years the chances are that you will retire or die on it. The government are now taking steps to get people back into work but freezing the benefit, according to the T.U.C. at it's highest level it is less than 1/5 of the average earnings. I'm lucky I get an extra few pounds of a different benefit because I have problems getting around, I can't afford a phone or TV licence and I don't drink,smoke or go out to the cinema for example. I by cheap damaged cans and packets of food and have reduced what I eat. Goodness knows how the hell other people with families survive on it. I live in dread that I have to go through the same process of appealing again, I almost lost my house the only asset I have the last time and spent an age paying back my overdraught. So next time anybody tells you Britain is a socialist country tell them my story, there are lots of people a lot worse off than I am. I'm lucky. I have a roof over my head and food on the table. Ted -- Stare too long into the abyss and the abyss looks like a nifty place to hide the bodies .