Subj : Re: BSG
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : Jim Larson
Date : Tue Sep 27 2005 20:04:58

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

John I wrote:

> Jim Larson wrote:
> 
>> Nick wrote:
>> 
>>> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>> John I wrote:
>>>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>>>> TNW7Z7Z7Z12345 wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Be sure to read the URL John posted.  http://tinyurl.com/8ko7r. It
>>>>>>>> is now obvious that this goes way beyond Abu Graib - that it was
>>>>>>>> widespread and that the military is still trying to cover it up. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A lot of that is really bad but some of these things I look at and
>>>>>>> think, so what? For example: "Detainees were also stacked, fully
>>>>>>> clothed, in human pyramids and forced to hold five-gallon water
>>>>>>> jugs with arms outstretched or do jumping jacks until they passed
>>>>>>> out, the report says." 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This stuff looks like really mild fraternity initiation rituals or
>>>>>>> even high-school football practice.
>>>>>>> Breaking bones and beatings are one thing, but this other stuff is 
>>>>>>> laughable. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Trun off Rush radio.  It is a proven fact that it will actually make
>>>>>> you dumber. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you have been listening to it, eh?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, I don't listen to political radio.
>>>>> But I did go to catholic school and military basic training and have
>>>>> had to do similar things to these. 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm pretty sure this wasn't training or trust exercises.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neither was mine.  Holding items with your arms out was standard school
>>> punishment.
>>> 
>> 
>> In a highly controlled situation, where you knew on some instinctual
>> level that there was oversight and that it would never go too far. I
>> strongly doubt that you ever feared Sr. Mary Frances would break your
>> wrists if you dropped the books you were holding. 
>> 
> 
> Or stick a nightstick in your ass.
> 

Let's not go crazy here. We *are* talking about the Catholic church after 
all.

ObDisclaimer: I went to Catholic school. While we had some petty tyrants on 
the faculty (and what grade school doesn't), I was never witness to anything 
that I would even remotely consider abuse.

-- 
Jim

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