Subj : Re: BSG
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : Jim Larson
Date : Tue Sep 27 2005 20:02:36

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

Tyler Trafford wrote:

> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>> Nick wrote:
>>> Jim Larson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>>>> John I wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>>>>>> TNW7Z7Z7Z12345 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure to read the URL John posted.  http://tinyurl.com/8ko7r.
>>>>>>>>>> It is now obvious that this goes way beyond Abu Graib - that it
>>>>>>>>>> was widespread and that the military is still trying to cover
>>>>>>>>>> it up. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A lot of that is really bad but some of these things I look at
>>>>>>>>> and think, so what? For example: "Detainees were also stacked,
>>>>>>>>> fully clothed, in human pyramids and forced to hold five-gallon
>>>>>>>>> water jugs with arms outstretched or do jumping jacks until they
>>>>>>>>> passed out, the report says." 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This stuff looks like really mild fraternity initiation rituals
>>>>>>>>> or even high-school football practice.
>>>>>>>>> Breaking bones and beatings are one thing, but this other stuff
>>>>>>>>> is laughable. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Trun off Rush radio.  It is a proven fact that it will actually
>>>>>>>> make you dumber. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So you have been listening to it, eh?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Actually, I don't listen to political radio.
>>>>>>> But I did go to catholic school and military basic training and
>>>>>>> have had to do similar things to these. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm pretty sure this wasn't training or trust exercises.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Neither was mine.  Holding items with your arms out was standard
>>>>> school punishment. 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a highly controlled situation, where you knew on some instinctual
>>>> level that there was oversight and that it would never go too far. I
>>>> strongly doubt that you ever feared Sr. Mary Frances would break your
>>>> wrists if you dropped the books you were holding. 
>>>  
>>>
>>> True, but we are comparing elementary school kids to terrorists and 
>>> insurgents.  I would expect the treatment to be a little tougher than it 
>>> is on the kids.
>>
>> They are prisoners, not the guard's tinker toys.
> 
> (I know you weren't saying that, but I had to write that down.)

(It rocked. You, however, continue to suck.)

((And Lincoln Logs were always cooler.))

-- 
Jim

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