Subj : Re: BSG
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : Tyler Trafford
Date : Tue Sep 27 2005 19:58:54

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

Tyler Trafford wrote:
> Nick wrote:
>> Jim Larson wrote:
>>
>>> Nick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>>> John I wrote:
>>>>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>>>>> TNW7Z7Z7Z12345 wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Be sure to read the URL John posted.  http://tinyurl.com/8ko7r.
>>>>>>>>> It is now obvious that this goes way beyond Abu Graib - that it
>>>>>>>>> was widespread and that the military is still trying to cover
>>>>>>>>> it up. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A lot of that is really bad but some of these things I look at
>>>>>>>> and think, so what? For example: "Detainees were also stacked,
>>>>>>>> fully clothed, in human pyramids and forced to hold five-gallon
>>>>>>>> water jugs with arms outstretched or do jumping jacks until they
>>>>>>>> passed out, the report says." 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This stuff looks like really mild fraternity initiation rituals
>>>>>>>> or even high-school football practice.
>>>>>>>> Breaking bones and beatings are one thing, but this other stuff
>>>>>>>> is laughable. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Trun off Rush radio.  It is a proven fact that it will actually
>>>>>>> make you dumber. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So you have been listening to it, eh?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Actually, I don't listen to political radio.
>>>>>> But I did go to catholic school and military basic training and
>>>>>> have had to do similar things to these. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm pretty sure this wasn't training or trust exercises.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Neither was mine.  Holding items with your arms out was standard
>>>> school punishment. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a highly controlled situation, where you knew on some instinctual
>>> level that there was oversight and that it would never go too far. I
>>> strongly doubt that you ever feared Sr. Mary Frances would break your
>>> wrists if you dropped the books you were holding. 
>>  
>>
>> True, but we are comparing elementary school kids to terrorists and 
>> insurgents.  I would expect the treatment to be a little tougher than it 
>> is on the kids.
>
> They are prisoners, not the guard's tinker toys.

(I know you weren't saying that, but I had to write that down.)
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Tyler Trafford

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