Subj : Re: BSG
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : Tyler Trafford
Date : Tue Sep 27 2005 19:57:38

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

Nick wrote:
> Jim Larson wrote:
>
>> Nick wrote:
>> 
>>> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>> John I wrote:
>>>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>>>> TNW7Z7Z7Z12345 wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Be sure to read the URL John posted.  http://tinyurl.com/8ko7r.
>>>>>>>> It is now obvious that this goes way beyond Abu Graib - that it
>>>>>>>> was widespread and that the military is still trying to cover
>>>>>>>> it up. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A lot of that is really bad but some of these things I look at
>>>>>>> and think, so what? For example: "Detainees were also stacked,
>>>>>>> fully clothed, in human pyramids and forced to hold five-gallon
>>>>>>> water jugs with arms outstretched or do jumping jacks until they
>>>>>>> passed out, the report says." 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This stuff looks like really mild fraternity initiation rituals
>>>>>>> or even high-school football practice.
>>>>>>> Breaking bones and beatings are one thing, but this other stuff
>>>>>>> is laughable. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Trun off Rush radio.  It is a proven fact that it will actually
>>>>>> make you dumber. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you have been listening to it, eh?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, I don't listen to political radio.
>>>>> But I did go to catholic school and military basic training and
>>>>> have had to do similar things to these. 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm pretty sure this wasn't training or trust exercises.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neither was mine.  Holding items with your arms out was standard
>>> school punishment. 
>>> 
>> 
>> In a highly controlled situation, where you knew on some instinctual
>> level that there was oversight and that it would never go too far. I
>> strongly doubt that you ever feared Sr. Mary Frances would break your
>> wrists if you dropped the books you were holding. 
>  
>
> True, but we are comparing elementary school kids to terrorists and 
> insurgents.  I would expect the treatment to be a little tougher than it 
> is on the kids.

They are prisoners, not the guard's tinker toys.
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Tyler Trafford

I've given up reading books; I find it takes my mind off myself.

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