Subj : Re: BSG
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : Nick
Date : Tue Sep 27 2005 19:40:39

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

Jim Larson wrote:

> Nick wrote:
> 
>> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>> 
>>> Nick wrote:
>>>> John I wrote:
>>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>>> TNW7Z7Z7Z12345 wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Be sure to read the URL John posted.  http://tinyurl.com/8ko7r.
>>>>>>> It is now obvious that this goes way beyond Abu Graib - that it
>>>>>>> was widespread and that the military is still trying to cover
>>>>>>> it up. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A lot of that is really bad but some of these things I look at
>>>>>> and think, so what? For example: "Detainees were also stacked,
>>>>>> fully clothed, in human pyramids and forced to hold five-gallon
>>>>>> water jugs with arms outstretched or do jumping jacks until they
>>>>>> passed out, the report says." 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This stuff looks like really mild fraternity initiation rituals
>>>>>> or even high-school football practice.
>>>>>> Breaking bones and beatings are one thing, but this other stuff
>>>>>> is laughable. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Trun off Rush radio.  It is a proven fact that it will actually
>>>>> make you dumber. 
>>>> 
>>>> So you have been listening to it, eh?
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, I don't listen to political radio.
>>>> But I did go to catholic school and military basic training and
>>>> have had to do similar things to these. 
>>> 
>>> I'm pretty sure this wasn't training or trust exercises.
>> 
>> 
>> Neither was mine.  Holding items with your arms out was standard
>> school punishment. 
>> 
> 
> In a highly controlled situation, where you knew on some instinctual
> level that there was oversight and that it would never go too far. I
> strongly doubt that you ever feared Sr. Mary Frances would break your
> wrists if you dropped the books you were holding. 
 

True, but we are comparing elementary school kids to terrorists and 
insurgents.  I would expect the treatment to be a little tougher than it 
is on the kids.

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