Subj : Re: BSG To : alt.tv.farscape From : Jim Larson Date : Tue Sep 27 2005 19:29:24 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Nick wrote: > Tyler Trafford wrote: > >> Nick wrote: >>> John I wrote: >>>> Nick wrote: >>>>> TNW7Z7Z7Z12345 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Be sure to read the URL John posted. http://tinyurl.com/8ko7r. It >>>>>> is now obvious that this goes way beyond Abu Graib - that it was >>>>>> widespread and that the military is still trying to cover it up. >>>>> >>>>> A lot of that is really bad but some of these things I look at and >>>>> think, so what? For example: "Detainees were also stacked, fully >>>>> clothed, in human pyramids and forced to hold five-gallon water jugs >>>>> with arms outstretched or do jumping jacks until they passed out, >>>>> the report says." >>>>> >>>>> This stuff looks like really mild fraternity initiation rituals or >>>>> even high-school football practice. >>>>> Breaking bones and beatings are one thing, but this other stuff is >>>>> laughable. >>>> >>>> Trun off Rush radio. It is a proven fact that it will actually make >>>> you dumber. >>> >>> So you have been listening to it, eh? >>> >>> Actually, I don't listen to political radio. >>> But I did go to catholic school and military basic training and have >>> had to do similar things to these. >> >> I'm pretty sure this wasn't training or trust exercises. > > > Neither was mine. Holding items with your arms out was standard school > punishment. > In a highly controlled situation, where you knew on some instinctual level that there was oversight and that it would never go too far. I strongly doubt that you ever feared Sr. Mary Frances would break your wrists if you dropped the books you were holding. -- Jim .