Subj : Re: BSG To : alt.tv.farscape From : Nick Date : Tue Sep 27 2005 14:55:10 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape weirdwolf wrote: > Nick wrote: >> weirdwolf wrote: >> >>> The military has got a long history of murder, torture and rape of >>> civilians who have the unfortunate habit of either speaking up for >>> a truly democratic state, are a member of the minority Kurdish >>> ethnic group or just piss them off by there very existence. >>> http://www.khrp.org/ http://www.mtcp.co.uk/campaigns.php?id=7 >>> You'll like the Mark Thomas guy, think Moore but funnier and more >>> politically astute. >>> Of course the civilian goverment is also culpable but you have to >>> remember that there were military coups in 60,71,80 and heavy >>> military involvement in the 97 coup, but that one was ok because it >>> got rid of the Islamic government. Of course this doesn't even >>> begin to touch on Cyprus and the invasion by Turkish forces in 74. >>> Hardly the secular liberal government model that you want to follow >>> now is it? >> >> I would think that any military that acts on its own accord and is >> not under the control of a civilian government is only one power >> hungry guy away from siezing total control. > > However there has to be a level at which the military must be allowed > to act autonomously. When politics gets mixed up in a military > decision it never ends well. For example Churchill's sinking of the > French fleet, while militarily the correct course to follow he has > still not been forgiven for his actions by the French, WOCAB. Does anyone care? I mean, what are they gonna do, surrender to you? .