Subj : Re: BSG
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : TNW7Z7Z7Z12345
Date : Mon Sep 26 2005 20:52:16

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

Ken McElhaney wrote: 
> John I wrote:
 
> > In other news, when I was watching 210, I was struck by the subtext
> > surrounding the different ways the Fascist side treated their prisoner,
> > versus the way that Galactica treated hers.  It seemed remarkably
> > coincidental with the new revalations about the Abu Ghraib atrocities:
> > http://tinyurl.com/8ko7r
> >
> >
> > From the HRW report (http://hrw.org/reports/2005/us0905/):
> >
> > "....Detainees at FOB Mercury were held in so-called "PUC tents"....The
> > torture of detainees reportedly was so widespread and accepted that it became
> > a means of stress relief for soldiers. Soldiers said they felt welcome to
> > come to the PUC tent on their off-hours to "Fuck a PUC" or "Smoke a PUC."
> > "Fucking a PUC" referred to beating a detainee, while "Smoking a PUC"
> > referred to forced physical exertion sometimes to the point of
> > unconsciousness."
> 
> Indeed, the crimes committed by the guards at Abu Graib are serious and
> should be delt with severely.  As for the total scope of what they did
> compared to what Saddam did to his people;
> http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2000/09/iraq-000918.htm
> 
> ..is like comparing a drop of water to the Atlantic Ocean.
> Ken


It's one thing to stack up Saddam's crimes against the war's civilian
casualties.  [Although time will tell how the Iraqis ultimately perceive
the cost-benefit ratio, given how incompetently we've handled things.] 

But whatever Saddam did has no relation whatsoever to our treatment of
prisoners of war.

All we've done with regard to POWs is severely damaged ourselves -- our
ability to sanction other countries for mistreating prisoners and our
ability to object if any of our own soldiers are taken prisoner in some
future war.

Be sure to read the URL John posted.  http://tinyurl.com/8ko7r. It is
now obvious that this goes way beyond Abu Graib - that it was widespread
and that the military is still trying to cover it up.


- TNW

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