Subj : Re: BSG To : alt.tv.farscape From : weirdwolf Date : Mon Sep 26 2005 18:09:09 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Tyler Trafford wrote in news:3pqnq2FbckstU1@individual.net: > Ken McElhaney wrote: >> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>> Ken McElhaney wrote: >>> > Jim Larson wrote: >>> >> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > Ken McElhaney wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>> >> >>> Chaya wrote in >>> >> >>> news:Xns96DBD5A927011chayaruth@204.153.244.170: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> > RR wrote: >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Jim Larson wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> That's some televisin' right there, that is.... >>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> Yep....That's how it's done. >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> That episode rocked. >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> Caine was hard not to dislike. I'm trying to place >>> >> >>> >>>>>> the actress. >>> >> >>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>>> What else has she been in? >>> >> >>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >>>>> (STTNG. She played ensign Ro.) >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> Michelle Forbes is on BSG? Neato. I've always thought >>> >> >>> >>>> she was ~smokin'~. >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> She is, shall we say, less than likeable in BSG. >>> >> >>> >>> (Although she does a very good less than likeable, in my >>> >> >>> >>> opinion.) >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> By the way, since you were considering watching the show, >>> >> >>> >>> I would suggest not starting with the current episode >>> >> >>> >>> featuring Michelle Forbes. It's very good, but probably >>> >> >>> >>> loses impact if you haven't been along for the ride. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I've decided to begin at the beginning with the mini/S1 >>> >> >>> >> box - and probably won't see the current eps 'til they hit >>> >> >>> >> DVD. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > Yeah, it's usually a bad idea to begin watching a series >>> >> >>> > with the season finale. >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > ;) >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > (I think you'll like it) >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> It's a cheap, cut-rate season finale. You one need ten >>> >> >>> episodes before it's shown. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> (By the way, I like science fiction that gets all allegorical >>> >> >>> and shit. BSG seems to do the job very nicely. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> The Pegasus and Galactica diverged politically after the >>> >> >>> Cylon attack. Pegasus became a military dictatorship with >>> >> >>> fascist underpinnings while the >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Since there is no civilian component to the Pegusus, it's hard >>> >> >> to describe it as a "military dictatorship" since only >>> >> >> military personel are involved. Better to say standard >>> >> >> military with a nutjob in command. As for the "fascist" >>> >> >> comment, yea, that's kinda accurate. >>> >> > >>> >> > Well, there *was* a civilian component- Cain just drafted >>> >> > everyone she came across. >>> >> >>> >> Aerospace Engineer Guy turned Deck Chief for instance. >>> > >>> > Wow, ONE guy gets drafted (how exactly was he drafted if the >>> > Pegusus left immediately?). Was he already on board and if so, >>> > wasn't he working FOR Cain anyway? >>> >>> He said he was on a civilian ship before the Pegasus found them. >>> The implication was rather strong that the Admiral had been forcing >>> everyone they came across into service. That was the point of that >>> scene. >> >> Which certainly does NOT mean "military dictatorship". In times of >> emergency, civilians can get pulled into the ranks to fill skill >> positions. So John's use of the term "military dictatorship" is >> simply wrong. > > Maybe. My first thought on hearing the engineer guy's story was that > Cain was probably planning on drafting everyone in Adama's group too, > including the president. No reason for dead weight. > > She obviously doesn't want there to be any deviation from her > commands. > > So, YMMV. > >> Besides, if he was on a civilian ship, what chances did he or his >> companions have against the Cylons? But then again, what chance did >> the Pegusus have if the ship 'n fighters were vulnerable to the Cylon >> pulse which disables all "modern" Colonial ships? Unless the writers >> forgot that little plot device. > > Maybe their early jump saved them from that. Just because I don't > have the explanation doesn't mean it is unexplainable*. > > > > > [*] Disregard that, of course it is. I thought that I heard that they were at the shipyard that BSG visited later. The one where the cloud affected cylon Ray,(not Vecchio Ray,) maybe it also buggered up the pulse thing as well. Ted -- Stare too long into the abyss and the abyss looks like a nifty place to hide the bodies .