Subj : Re: BSG To : alt.tv.farscape From : Tyler Trafford Date : Mon Sep 26 2005 18:04:21 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Ken McElhaney wrote: > > John I wrote: >> Tyler Trafford wrote: >> >> > Ken McElhaney wrote: >> >> >> >> Jim Larson wrote: >> >>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > Ken McElhaney wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> John Iwaniszek wrote: >> >>> >>> Chaya wrote in >> >>> >>> news:Xns96DBD5A927011chayaruth@204.153.244.170: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> > RR wrote: >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >> Jim Larson wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> That's some televisin' right there, that is.... >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> Yep....That's how it's done. >> >>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> That episode rocked. >> >>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> Caine was hard not to dislike. I'm trying to place the >> >>> >>> >>>>>> actress. >> >>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> What else has she been in? >> >>> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>> (STTNG. She played ensign Ro.) >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>>> Michelle Forbes is on BSG? Neato. I've always thought she was >> >>> >>> >>>> ~smokin'~. >> >>> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> She is, shall we say, less than likeable in BSG. (Although she >> >>> >>> >>> does a very good less than likeable, in my opinion.) >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> By the way, since you were considering watching the show, I >> >>> >>> >>> would suggest not starting with the current episode featuring >> >>> >>> >>> Michelle Forbes. It's very good, but probably loses impact if >> >>> >>> >>> you haven't been along for the ride. >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> I've decided to begin at the beginning with the mini/S1 box - >> >>> >>> >> and probably won't see the current eps 'til they hit DVD. >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > Yeah, it's usually a bad idea to begin watching a series with >> >>> >>> > the season finale. >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > ;) >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > (I think you'll like it) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> It's a cheap, cut-rate season finale. You one need ten episodes >> >>> >>> before it's shown. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> (By the way, I like science fiction that gets all allegorical and >> >>> >>> shit. BSG seems to do the job very nicely. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> The Pegasus and Galactica diverged politically after the Cylon >> >>> >>> attack. Pegasus became a military dictatorship with fascist >> >>> >>> underpinnings while the >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Since there is no civilian component to the Pegusus, it's hard to >> >>> >> describe it as a "military dictatorship" since only military >> >>> >> personel are involved. Better to say standard military with a >> >>> >> nutjob in command. As for the "fascist" comment, yea, that's kinda >> >>> >> accurate. >> >>> > >> >>> > Well, there *was* a civilian component- Cain just drafted everyone >> >>> > she came across. >> >>> >> >>> Aerospace Engineer Guy turned Deck Chief for instance. >> >> >> >> Wow, ONE guy gets drafted (how exactly was he drafted if the Pegusus >> >> left immediately?). Was he already on board and if so, wasn't he >> >> working FOR Cain anyway? >> > >> > He said he was on a civilian ship before the Pegasus found them. The >> > implication was rather strong that the Admiral had been forcing everyone >> > they came across into service. That was the point of that scene. >> >> The contrast between the two colonial groups was quite clear: The Pegasus >> group became an austere military society ruled by an autocrat with a >> singleminded purpose, > > What group? The Pegusus seems to be the only ship in it's group, unless > I missed something during the shaky CGI scenes showing the Pegusus > surrounded by civilan ships. But even so, there would be no civilian > command structure in the Pegusus's group since there were no surviving > members of the Colonial governing body...at least none that has been > established. > >>while the Galactica group clearly is trying to preserve >> the civilian leadership and the civil society that should be the point of >> most Liberal democracies. > > Well, "Liberal" democracies would put the civilian President in charge > of the military. That does not appear to be the case here as Adama > could simply inform the President of Cain's actions and she could fire > her as Admiral. And there are plenty of precidents in US history to > back that up. It doesn't matter who says they are President if the military follows someone else and doesn't recognize her/his authority. -- Tyler Trafford Many people resent being treated like the person they really are. .