Subj : Re: Larry King
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : John Iwaniszek
Date : Thu Sep 01 2005 02:27:15

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
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> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
> news:Xns96C3D72E671E4joiwhnanri@66.26.32.9:
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>> weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
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>>> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
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>>>> weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
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>>>>> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
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>>>>>> weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
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>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
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>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in 
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>>>>>>>> @individual.net:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:3nmr2uF2bb0mU1@individual.net: 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3nmkgoF2a1tqU1 @individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which should lead to the development of brown field
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> innercity sites and the development of better mass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should there be any move towards better mass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation when petrol is a mere $4/gallon?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm an advocate of increasing fuel prices to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumer, might stop people driving the 15 minute walk to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't that just increase cost-of-living and just cause 
>>>>>>>> inflation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shipping this week has a 50% increase in fuel surcharge. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> last week it was 20 cents a mile.  This week it's 30 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, interstate commerce, I completely forgot about that
>>>>>>>>>>> consequence. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  one that will encourage locally grown produce, a movement
>>>>>>>>>>  which is 
>>>>>>>>>> rising in this country.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That would still screw over states like Montana and South
>>>>>>>>> Dakota (etc) which grow mass quantities of corn and wheat.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They are already fucked because of aforementioned fuel prices
>>>>>>>> and katrina-caused NOLA bottleneck.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  but Katrina hasn't caused the bottle neck it is only served as
>>>>>>>  a focus 
>>>>>>> point to bring the problem into the light.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What this might due is shift transport and port resources to
>>>>>>>> the mid- atlantic and stimulate a rebuilding of the rail
>>>>>>>> system.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Yeah and the pigs will fly themselves to market. Can you really
>>>>>>>  see that 
>>>>>>> happening in the current political climate?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bush is a lame duck.  His approvals are a 38% and dropping (we're
>>>>>> talking Nixon-level).  His
>>>>>> incapability for feeling or showing empathy and his failure to
>>>>>> lead in this situation will sink him further. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I understand he had a "birds eye view" of the disaster regions
>>>>>> this afternoon.  Some one needs to tell him and his media
>>>>>> fellators that no bird flies at 30,000 feet.  Clinton, Gore, and
>>>>>> Kerry would have had their muddy boots on the ground.  Not The
>>>>>> First Dry Drunk. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I've never been impressed wih the whole visiting the disaster
>>>>>  area and 
>>>>> meeting the hospitalised stuff. Always struck me as fake and 
>>>>> condescending.
>>>>>  Short of impeachment or resignation is there anyway that his own
>>>>>  party 
>>>>> can force him out of office a la Thatcher and the tories? A vote
>>>>> of no confidence in the senate?
>>>>>  I'm afraid my knowledge of American political history is rather
>>>>>  limited 
>>>>> and I can't recall a situation where this has occured.
>>>>>  Ted
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Republicans are marching in perfect lockstep with Bush.  There is
>>>> no 
>>> way 
>>>> he will be driven out, even if there is a live boy or a dead girl 
>>>> involved.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK say for example he had invaded a country for no reason..
>>> damn..er..say for example it was found that he was a
>>> deserter....shit..ok.. third times the charm... say for example he
>>> lied to the senate...bugger this is more difficult than it seems...
>>> OOO I've got a good one.. say for example he had completely crippled
>>> the national eco..n..o.my... 
>>>  Right, fine, we will forget the reason why just imagine they wanted
>>>  to 
>>> force him out of office. Is there a way that they could do it and
>>> has it been done before? My rather dodgy memory and obvious lack of
>>> knowledge can't seem to come up with an example of it happening. 
>>> 
>> 
>> The only legal thing that can happen is impeachment or letting him
>> run out his term.  One of those is a certainty, the other is an 
>> impossibility because of the Republican inability to admit mistakes
>> or accept responsibility.
>> 
>> Here is an benchmark to use when measuring the integrity of Boy King:
>>  Nixon resigned.
> 
>  I thought that might be the case.
> It's a bloody stupid system by the way.
>  Ted
> 
> 

It works pretty well most of the time.  If the actors aren't criminals.

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