Subj : Re: Larry King
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : John Iwaniszek
Date : Thu Sep 01 2005 02:09:14

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
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> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
> news:Xns96C3D080DB155joiwhnanri@66.26.32.8:
> 
>> weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
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>> 
>>> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
>>> news:Xns96C3C566C8CAEjoiwhnanri@66.26.32.9:
>>> 
>>>> weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
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>>>> 
>>>>> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
>>>>> news:Xns96C3C34532CABjoiwhnanri@66.26.32.9:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in 
>>>>> news:3nmrg4F2bb0mU2
>>>>>> @individual.net:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:3nmr2uF2bb0mU1@individual.net: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:3nmkgoF2a1tqU1 @individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which should lead to the development of brown field
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> innercity sites and the development of better mass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should there be any move towards better mass
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation when petrol is a mere $4/gallon?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm an advocate of increasing fuel prices to the consumer,
>>>>>>>>>>>> might stop people driving the 15 minute walk to the shop.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't that just increase cost-of-living and just cause 
>>>>>> inflation?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Shipping this week has a 50% increase in fuel surcharge. 
>>>>>>>>>> last week it was 20 cents a mile.  This week it's 30 cents.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ah, interstate commerce, I completely forgot about that
>>>>>>>>> consequence. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  one that will encourage locally grown produce, a movement
>>>>>>>>  which is 
>>>>>>>> rising in this country.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That would still screw over states like Montana and South Dakota
>>>>>>> (etc) which grow mass quantities of corn and wheat.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They are already fucked because of aforementioned fuel prices and
>>>>>> katrina-caused NOLA bottleneck.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  but Katrina hasn't caused the bottle neck it is only served as a
>>>>>  focus 
>>>>> point to bring the problem into the light.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What this might due is shift transport and port resources to the
>>>>>> mid- atlantic and stimulate a rebuilding of the rail system.  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Yeah and the pigs will fly themselves to market. Can you really
>>>>>  see that 
>>>>> happening in the current political climate?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bush is a lame duck.  His approvals are a 38% and dropping (we're 
>>>> talking Nixon-level).  His
>>>> incapability for feeling or showing empathy and his failure to lead
>>>> in this situation will sink him further. 
>>>> 
>>>> I understand he had a "birds eye view" of the disaster regions this
>>>> afternoon.  Some one needs to tell him and his media fellators that
>>>> no bird flies at 30,000 feet.  Clinton, Gore, and Kerry would have
>>>> had their muddy boots on the ground.  Not The First Dry Drunk. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>  I've never been impressed wih the whole visiting the disaster area
>>>  and 
>>> meeting the hospitalised stuff. Always struck me as fake and 
>>> condescending.
>>>  Short of impeachment or resignation is there anyway that his own
>>>  party 
>>> can force him out of office a la Thatcher and the tories? A vote of
>>> no confidence in the senate?
>>>  I'm afraid my knowledge of American political history is rather
>>>  limited 
>>> and I can't recall a situation where this has occured.
>>>  Ted
>>> 
>> 
>> Republicans are marching in perfect lockstep with Bush.  There is no 
> way 
>> he will be driven out, even if there is a live boy or a dead girl 
>> involved.
>> 
> 
> OK say for example he had invaded a country for no reason..
> damn..er..say for example it was found that he was a
> deserter....shit..ok.. third times the charm... say for example he
> lied to the senate...bugger this is more difficult than it seems...
> OOO I've got a good one.. say for example he had completely crippled
> the national eco..n..o.my... 
>  Right, fine, we will forget the reason why just imagine they wanted
>  to 
> force him out of office. Is there a way that they could do it and has
> it been done before? My rather dodgy memory and obvious lack of
> knowledge can't seem to come up with an example of it happening.
>  Ted 
> 

The only legal thing that can happen is impeachment or letting him run 
out his term.  One of those is a certainty, the other is an 
impossibility because of the Republican inability to admit mistakes or 
accept responsibility.

Here is an benchmark to use when measuring the integrity of Boy King:  
Nixon resigned.

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