Subj : Re: Larry King
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : John Iwaniszek
Date : Thu Sep 01 2005 01:38:44

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
news:Xns96C4CD0B5FC5r73u67jw56nas@80.5.182.99: 

> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
> news:Xns96C3C566C8CAEjoiwhnanri@66.26.32.9:
> 
>> weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns96C42F73A797r73u67jw56nas@80.5.182.99: 
>> 
>>> John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
>>> news:Xns96C3C34532CABjoiwhnanri@66.26.32.9:
>>> 
>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in 
>>> news:3nmrg4F2bb0mU2
>>>> @individual.net:
>>>> 
>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:3nmr2uF2bb0mU1@individual.net: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:3nmkgoF2a1tqU1 @individual.net:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Steve Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which should lead to the development of brown field
>>>>>>>>>>>> innercity sites and the development of better mass
>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Why should there be any move towards better mass
>>>>>>>>>>> transportation when petrol is a mere $4/gallon?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm an advocate of increasing fuel prices to the consumer,
>>>>>>>>>> might stop people driving the 15 minute walk to the shop.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't that just increase cost-of-living and just cause 
>>>> inflation?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shipping this week has a 50% increase in fuel surcharge.  last
>>>>>>>> week it was 20 cents a mile.  This week it's 30 cents.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ah, interstate commerce, I completely forgot about that
>>>>>>> consequence. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  one that will encourage locally grown produce, a movement which
>>>>>>  is 
>>>>>> rising in this country.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That would still screw over states like Montana and South Dakota
>>>>> (etc) which grow mass quantities of corn and wheat.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> They are already fucked because of aforementioned fuel prices and 
>>>> katrina-caused NOLA bottleneck.
>>> 
>>>  but Katrina hasn't caused the bottle neck it is only served as a
>>>  focus 
>>> point to bring the problem into the light.
>>> 
>>>> What this might due is shift transport and port resources to the
>>>> mid- atlantic and stimulate a rebuilding of the rail system.  
>>> 
>>>  Yeah and the pigs will fly themselves to market. Can you really see
>>>  that 
>>> happening in the current political climate?
>> 
>> 
>> Bush is a lame duck.  His approvals are a 38% and dropping (we're 
>> talking Nixon-level).  His
>> incapability for feeling or showing empathy and his failure to lead
>> in this situation will sink him further. 
>> 
>> I understand he had a "birds eye view" of the disaster regions this
>> afternoon.  Some one needs to tell him and his media fellators that
>> no bird flies at 30,000 feet.  Clinton, Gore, and Kerry would have
>> had their muddy boots on the ground.  Not The First Dry Drunk. 
>> 
> 
>  I've never been impressed wih the whole visiting the disaster area
>  and 
> meeting the hospitalised stuff. Always struck me as fake and 
> condescending.



It's called leadership.



>  Short of impeachment or resignation is there anyway that his own
>  party 
> can force him out of office a la Thatcher and the tories? A vote of no
> confidence in the senate?
>  I'm afraid my knowledge of American political history is rather
>  limited 
> and I can't recall a situation where this has occured.
>  Ted
>

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