Subj : Re: Larry King
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : weirdwolf
Date : Wed Aug 31 2005 23:55:21

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

John Iwaniszek <Not@hotmail.com> wrote in 
news:Xns96C3BF19CC368joiwhnanri@66.26.32.9:

> weirdwolf <Hooowl@hoowl.com> wrote in
> news:Xns96C3E488061D5r73u67jw56nas@80.5.182.99: 
> 
>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:3nmla3F2a6dfU2@individual.net: 
>> 
>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>> Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:3nmkgoF2a1tqU1 @individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>> Steve Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>> weirdwolf wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Which should lead to the development of brown field innercity
>>>>>>>> sites and the development of better mass transportation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why should there be any move towards better mass transportation
>>>>>>> when petrol is a mere $4/gallon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an advocate of increasing fuel prices to the consumer, might
>>>>>> stop people driving the 15 minute walk to the shop.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wouldn't that just increase cost-of-living and just cause
>>>>> inflation? 
>>>>
>>>> Yes and no. Prices would increase as a result of increased
>>>> transportation costs, but you could offset that by other means. The
>>>> cost of living due to spiralling petrol prices is happening anyway,
>>>> were are talking about the same sort of prices for oil as after the
>>>> Iranian revolution. It will continue to rise no matter what,
>>>> instabilities in the middle east and elsewhere, the North sea
>>>> reserves are draining rapidly, the scarcity of easily accesable
>>>> reserves mean that unless you switch to an alternative source of
>>>> power that stuff like tar sands will have to be exploited. More 
>>>> difficult to extract and to actually get to, with a corresponding
>>>> price increase. A lot of the goods in this country used to be
>>>> transported by rail I'ld like to see this return.
>>> 
>>> What gets me is how the price increases are due not to supply
>>> shortfalls, but by the threat of possible future shortfalls.
>> 
>> No, supply shortfalls are happening now, there is just not enough 
>> refining capability to produce the right fractions required.  China
>> has a huge requirement which is getting larger every day. This is what
>> peak oil is all about. Wether we've reached it yet or not I am
>> uncertain, lets face it I am way to stupid to understand this kind of
>> thing, but all the data doesn't look good.
>> 
> 
> Demand is presently exceeding supply.  Or is that merely stating the 
> obvious?
> 

 It's more than that, it's that the supply has reached is maximum 
possible level and that this downturn in supply is coupled with a still 
increasing demand.
 Ted


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