Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Nick Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 03:48:20 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape weirdwolf wrote: > Chaya wrote in > news:Xns96D1E5F579B5chayaruth@ 204.153.244.170: > >> Jim Larson wrote: >> >>> Chaya wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nick wrote in >>>>>>>> news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of people." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong with America, notice they don't mention >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything about helping people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a tax on your tolerance, not an appeal to your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better neature. Secondly If I weasn't going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give to a cause, or I already gave what I allotted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a cause, annoying me to give more $ pushes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annoyance with the cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money they made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative view of charities. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> United Way and he always expected you to donate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some magical number of $ that only he knew. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped giving altogether because I didn't like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manadatory work donations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumes you haven't already donated your budget to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your cause of choice, or that you are ok with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mission and practice of the charity chosen by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marathons and raising money is that your cause may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be their cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of runs and then not to my next ones. His >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> son had become a diabetic and almost died. They >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefered to send to diabetes research. He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apologized for not donating and started to explain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why. I immediately stopped him and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said "no problem. You have a different priority >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that's fine". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the outset?) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. >>>>>>>>>>>> I've always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when >>>>>>>>>>> the revolution comes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme >>>>>>>>>> Dictator. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over >>>>>>>>> the cash. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (women don't know anything about revolutions) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (they really should stick to baking and sewing) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OOOOOOH... NOW I get it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (You still want that HRH, it's another quarter.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm in. It's all about sacrifice, after all. >>> >>> (That's another quarter per letter.) >>> >> >> You truly understand what it means to be a despot. I salute you, >> fearless leader! >> > > hey hey, before you salute the upstart usurper, just remember who > is the real monarch here missy, well at least for another 15 days > till the new monthly stats come out. Man, you shoulda seen the old days. We used to have around 20k posts per month. .