Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : weirdwolf Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 03:44:22 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Chaya wrote in news:Xns96D1E6E40B90Achayaruth@204.153.244.170: > weirdwolf wrote: > >> Chaya wrote in >> news:Xns96D1E5F579B5chayaruth@ 204.153.244.170: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote: >>> >>>> Chaya wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nick wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of people." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with America, notice they don't mention anything about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on your tolerance, not an appeal to your better >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neature. Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause, or I already gave what I allotted to a cause, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annoying me to give more $ pushes beyond polite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solicitation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annoyance with the cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of charities. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Way and he always expected you to donate some magical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number of $ that only he knew. I stopped giving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> altogether because I didn't like the pressure from my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boss. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manadatory work donations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumes you haven't already donated your budget to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your cause of choice, or that you are ok with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mission and practice of the charity chosen by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marathons and raising money is that your cause may not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be their cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of runs and then not to my next ones. His son had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a diabetic and almost died. They prefered to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send to diabetes research. He apologized for not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donating and started to explain why. I immediately >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped him and said "no problem. You have a different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priority and that's fine". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the outset?) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>>>>>>>>>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >>>>>>>>>>>> revolution comes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the >>>>>>>>>> cash. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (women don't know anything about revolutions) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (they really should stick to baking and sewing) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OOOOOOH... NOW I get it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (You still want that HRH, it's another quarter.) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm in. It's all about sacrifice, after all. >>>> >>>> (That's another quarter per letter.) >>>> >>> >>> You truly understand what it means to be a despot. I salute you, >>> fearless leader! >>> >> >> hey hey, before you salute the upstart usurper, just remember who is >> the real monarch here missy, well at least for another 15 days till >> the new monthly stats come out. >> Ted >> > > Well, you do have the proper accent... > Could you imagine the Queen speaking with my high and squeaky voice and the Ozzy Osbourne accent. That would be soooo cool. Ted -- Stare too long into the abyss and the abyss looks like a nifty place to hide the bodies .