Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : weirdwolf Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 03:40:11 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Chaya wrote in news:Xns96D1E5F579B5chayaruth@ 204.153.244.170: > Jim Larson wrote: > >> Chaya wrote: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote: >>> >>>> Chaya wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nick wrote in >>>>>>> news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of people." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of charities. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work donations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and raising money is that your cause may not be their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones. His son had become a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic and almost died. They prefered to send to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetes research. He apologized for not donating and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started to explain why. I immediately stopped him and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said "no problem. You have a different priority and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's fine". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the outset?) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>>>>>>>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >>>>>>>>>> revolution comes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the >>>>>>>> cash. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (women don't know anything about revolutions) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (they really should stick to baking and sewing) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OOOOOOH... NOW I get it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> (You still want that HRH, it's another quarter.) >>>> >>> >>> I'm in. It's all about sacrifice, after all. >> >> (That's another quarter per letter.) >> > > You truly understand what it means to be a despot. I salute you, > fearless leader! > hey hey, before you salute the upstart usurper, just remember who is the real monarch here missy, well at least for another 15 days till the new monthly stats come out. Ted -- Stare too long into the abyss and the abyss looks like a nifty place to hide the bodies .