Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Jim Larson Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 03:29:42 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape weirdwolf wrote: > Chaya wrote in > news:Xns96D1E14686CCCchayaruth@204.153.244.170: > >> Jim Larson wrote: >> >>> Chaya wrote: >>> >>>> Nick wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nick wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of charities. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work donations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and raising money is that your cause may not be their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones. His son had become a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic and almost died. They prefered to send to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetes research. He apologized for not donating and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> started to explain why. I immediately stopped him and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> said "no problem. You have a different priority and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's fine". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from >>>>>>>>>>>>> the outset?) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>>>>>>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >>>>>>>>> revolution comes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the >>>>>>> cash. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (women don't know anything about revolutions) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (they really should stick to baking and sewing) >>>>> >>>> >>>> OOOOOOH... NOW I get it. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> (You still want that HRH, it's another quarter.) >>> >> >> I'm in. It's all about sacrifice, after all. >> > > Well for 45 cents plus P and P you can have the whole of our Royal > family. Don't try pawning off defective merchandise on us. Not at those outrageous prices. -- Jim .