Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Jim Larson Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 03:28:35 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Chaya wrote: > Jim Larson wrote: > >> Chaya wrote: >> >>> Nick wrote: >>> >>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nick wrote in >>>>> news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>>> >>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of charities. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work donations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons >>>>>>>>>>>>> and raising money is that your cause may not be their >>>>>>>>>>>>> cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of >>>>>>>>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones. His son had become a >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic and almost died. They prefered to send to >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetes research. He apologized for not donating and >>>>>>>>>>>>> started to explain why. I immediately stopped him and >>>>>>>>>>>>> said "no problem. You have a different priority and >>>>>>>>>>>>> that's fine". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from >>>>>>>>>>>> the outset?) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>>>>>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >>>>>>>> revolution comes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the >>>>>> cash. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (women don't know anything about revolutions) >>>>> >>>> >>>> (they really should stick to baking and sewing) >>>> >>> >>> OOOOOOH... NOW I get it. >>> >>> >> >> (You still want that HRH, it's another quarter.) >> > > I'm in. It's all about sacrifice, after all. (That's another quarter per letter.) -- Jim .