Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Chaya Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 03:08:43 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote: > Chaya wrote: > >> Nick wrote: >> >>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>> >>>> Nick wrote in >>>> news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>> >>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>>>>>>>>> people." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>>>>>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on >>>>>>>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I >>>>>>>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>>>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance >>>>>>>>>>>>> with the cause. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>>>>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view >>>>>>>>>>>>> of charities. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way >>>>>>>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number >>>>>>>>>>>>> of $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether >>>>>>>>>>>>> because I didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory >>>>>>>>>>>>> work donations. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons >>>>>>>>>>>> and raising money is that your cause may not be their >>>>>>>>>>>> cause. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of >>>>>>>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones. His son had become a >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic and almost died. They prefered to send to >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetes research. He apologized for not donating and >>>>>>>>>>>> started to explain why. I immediately stopped him and >>>>>>>>>>>> said "no problem. You have a different priority and >>>>>>>>>>>> that's fine". >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from >>>>>>>>>>> the outset?) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>>>>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >>>>>>> revolution comes. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the >>>>> cash. >>>>> >>>> >>>> (women don't know anything about revolutions) >>>> >>> >>> (they really should stick to baking and sewing) >>> >> >> OOOOOOH... NOW I get it. >> >> > > (You still want that HRH, it's another quarter.) > I'm in. It's all about sacrifice, after all. .