Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Jim Larson Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 03:00:08 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Chaya wrote: > Nick wrote: > >> John Iwaniszek wrote: >> >>> Nick wrote in >>> news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>> >>>> Chaya wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>>>>>>>> people." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>>>>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on >>>>>>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. >>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I >>>>>>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance >>>>>>>>>>>> with the cause. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>>>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view >>>>>>>>>>>> of charities. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way >>>>>>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number >>>>>>>>>>>> of $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether >>>>>>>>>>>> because I didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory >>>>>>>>>>>> work donations. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes >>>>>>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of >>>>>>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice >>>>>>>>>>>> of the charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons >>>>>>>>>>> and raising money is that your cause may not be their >>>>>>>>>>> cause. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of >>>>>>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones. His son had become a >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic and almost died. They prefered to send to >>>>>>>>>>> diabetes research. He apologized for not donating and >>>>>>>>>>> started to explain why. I immediately stopped him and >>>>>>>>>>> said "no problem. You have a different priority and >>>>>>>>>>> that's fine". >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from >>>>>>>>>> the outset?) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>>>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >>>>>> revolution comes. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the >>>> cash. >>>> >>> >>> (women don't know anything about revolutions) >>> >> >> (they really should stick to baking and sewing) >> > > OOOOOOH... NOW I get it. > > (You still want that HRH, it's another quarter.) -- Jim .