Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Chaya Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 02:09:10 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Nick wrote: > John Iwaniszek wrote: > >> Nick wrote in >> news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >> >>> Chaya wrote: >>> >>>> Nick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>>>>>>> people." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>>>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on >>>>>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. >>>>>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I >>>>>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance >>>>>>>>>>> with the cause. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view >>>>>>>>>>> of charities. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way >>>>>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number >>>>>>>>>>> of $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether >>>>>>>>>>> because I didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory >>>>>>>>>>> work donations. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes >>>>>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of >>>>>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice >>>>>>>>>>> of the charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons >>>>>>>>>> and raising money is that your cause may not be their >>>>>>>>>> cause. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of >>>>>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones. His son had become a >>>>>>>>>> diabetic and almost died. They prefered to send to >>>>>>>>>> diabetes research. He apologized for not donating and >>>>>>>>>> started to explain why. I immediately stopped him and >>>>>>>>>> said "no problem. You have a different priority and >>>>>>>>>> that's fine". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from >>>>>>>>> the outset?) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >>>>> revolution comes. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. >>>> >>> >>> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the >>> cash. >>> >> >> (women don't know anything about revolutions) >> > > (they really should stick to baking and sewing) > OOOOOOH... NOW I get it. .