Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Nick Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 01:52:05 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape John Iwaniszek wrote: > Nick wrote in > news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: > >> Chaya wrote: >> >>> Nick wrote: >>> >>>> Chaya wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Chaya wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>>>>>> people." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on >>>>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. >>>>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I >>>>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance >>>>>>>>>> with the cause. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view >>>>>>>>>> of charities. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way >>>>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number >>>>>>>>>> of $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether >>>>>>>>>> because I didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory >>>>>>>>>> work donations. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes >>>>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of >>>>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice >>>>>>>>>> of the charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons >>>>>>>>> and raising money is that your cause may not be their >>>>>>>>> cause. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of >>>>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones. His son had become a >>>>>>>>> diabetic and almost died. They prefered to send to >>>>>>>>> diabetes research. He apologized for not donating and >>>>>>>>> started to explain why. I immediately stopped him and >>>>>>>>> said "no problem. You have a different priority and >>>>>>>>> that's fine". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from >>>>>>>> the outset?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Woohoo! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >>>> revolution comes. >>>> >>> >>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. >>> >> >> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the >> cash. >> > > (women don't know anything about revolutions) > (they really should stick to baking and sewing) .