Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : John Iwaniszek
Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 01:46:23

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

Nick <nickSPAMMENOT@snurcher.com> wrote in news:Xns96D1C865D7D90ndtcm@
68.1.17.6:

> Chaya wrote:
> 
>> Nick wrote:
>> 
>>> Chaya wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jim Larson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Chaya wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim Larson wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Trouble <troubleNOSPAM@tekfactory.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Nick wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Quote from the article;
>>>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of
>>>>>>>>> people." 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with
>>>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping
>>>>>>>>> people, or a good cause... 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an
>>>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on
>>>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature.
>>>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I
>>>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to
>>>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance
>>>>>>>>> with the cause. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they
>>>>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view
>>>>>>>>> of charities. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way
>>>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number of
>>>>>>>>> $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether because I
>>>>>>>>> didn't like the pressure from my boss.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory
>>>>>>>>> work donations. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes
>>>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of
>>>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice of
>>>>>>>>> the charity chosen by the company. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons and
>>>>>>>> raising money is that your cause may not be their cause. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of
>>>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones.  His son had become a
>>>>>>>> diabetic and almost died.  They prefered to send to diabetes
>>>>>>>> research. He apologized for not donating and started to
>>>>>>>> explain why.  I immediately stopped him and said "no
>>>>>>>> problem.  You have a different priority and that's fine". 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause.  It makes them
>>>>>>>> resentful of that cause.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from the
>>>>>>> outset?) 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll give you a quarter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Woohoo!
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title.  I've
>>>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the 
>>> revolution comes.
>>> 
>> 
>> Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator.
>> 
> 
> I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the cash.
> 

(women don't know anything about revolutions)

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