Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Nick Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 01:41:51 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Chaya wrote: > Nick wrote: > >> Chaya wrote: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote: >>> >>>> Chaya wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>>>> people." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an >>>>>>>> anoyance, that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on >>>>>>>> your tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. >>>>>>>> Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I >>>>>>>> already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance >>>>>>>> with the cause. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view >>>>>>>> of charities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way >>>>>>>> and he always expected you to donate some magical number of >>>>>>>> $ that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether because I >>>>>>>> didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory >>>>>>>> work donations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes >>>>>>>> you haven't already donated your budget to your cause of >>>>>>>> choice, or that you are ok with the mission and practice of >>>>>>>> the charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons and >>>>>>> raising money is that your cause may not be their cause. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of >>>>>>> runs and then not to my next ones. His son had become a >>>>>>> diabetic and almost died. They prefered to send to diabetes >>>>>>> research. He apologized for not donating and started to >>>>>>> explain why. I immediately stopped him and said "no >>>>>>> problem. You have a different priority and that's fine". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from the >>>>>> outset?) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Woohoo! >>>> >>> >>> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've >>> always wanted to have an HRH before my name. >>> >> >> I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the >> revolution comes. >> > > Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. > I was thinking I could get that role by NOT handing over the cash. .