Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Chaya Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 01:26:23 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Nick wrote: > Chaya wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote: >> >>> Chaya wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>>> people." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an anoyance, >>>>>>> that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on your >>>>>>> tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. Secondly If >>>>>>> I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I already gave what I >>>>>>> allotted to a cause, annoying me to give more $ pushes beyond >>>>>>> polite solicitation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance with >>>>>>> the cause. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view of >>>>>>> charities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way and >>>>>>> he always expected you to donate some magical number of $ >>>>>>> that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether because I >>>>>>> didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory work >>>>>>> donations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes you >>>>>>> haven't already donated your budget to your cause of choice, >>>>>>> or that you are ok with the mission and practice of the >>>>>>> charity chosen by the company. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons and >>>>>> raising money is that your cause may not be their cause. >>>>>> >>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of runs >>>>>> and then not to my next ones. His son had become a diabetic >>>>>> and almost died. They prefered to send to diabetes research. >>>>>> He apologized for not donating and started to explain why. I >>>>>> immediately stopped him and said "no problem. You have a >>>>>> different priority and that's fine". >>>>>> >>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from the >>>>> outset?) >>>> >>>> >>>> I'll give you a quarter. >>>> >>> >>> Woohoo! >>> >> >> As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've always >> wanted to have an HRH before my name. >> > > I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the > revolution comes. > Better start handing over the cash to the Supreme Dictator. .