Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Nick Date : Thu Sep 15 2005 01:21:58 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Chaya wrote: > Jim Larson wrote: > >> Chaya wrote: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote: >>> >>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>> >>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>> >>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of >>>>>> people." >>>>>> >>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with >>>>>> America, notice they don't mention anything about helping >>>>>> people, or a good cause... >>>>>> >>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an anoyance, >>>>>> that is the first ugly part here, its a tax on your >>>>>> tolerance, not an appeal to your better neature. Secondly If >>>>>> I weasn't going to give to a cause, or I already gave what I >>>>>> allotted to a cause, annoying me to give more $ pushes beyond >>>>>> polite solicitation. >>>>>> >>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance with >>>>>> the cause. >>>>>> >>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they >>>>>> made, not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view of >>>>>> charities. >>>>>> >>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way and >>>>>> he always expected you to donate some magical number of $ >>>>>> that only he knew. I stopped giving altogether because I >>>>>> didn't like the pressure from my boss. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory work >>>>>> donations. >>>>>> >>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes you >>>>>> haven't already donated your budget to your cause of choice, >>>>>> or that you are ok with the mission and practice of the >>>>>> charity chosen by the company. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons and >>>>> raising money is that your cause may not be their cause. >>>>> >>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of runs >>>>> and then not to my next ones. His son had become a diabetic >>>>> and almost died. They prefered to send to diabetes research. >>>>> He apologized for not donating and started to explain why. I >>>>> immediately stopped him and said "no problem. You have a >>>>> different priority and that's fine". >>>>> >>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them >>>>> resentful of that cause. >>>>> >>>> >>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from the >>>> outset?) >>> >>> >>> I'll give you a quarter. >>> >> >> Woohoo! >> > > As the first donor, I'd like to have a special title. I've always > wanted to have an HRH before my name. > I want to be one of the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes. .