Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Tyler Trafford Date : Wed Sep 14 2005 05:02:10 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote: > Tyler Trafford wrote: > >> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of people." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with America, >>>>>>>> notice they don't mention anything about helping people, or a good >>>>>>>> cause... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an anoyance, that >>>>>>>> is the first ugly part here, its a tax on your tolerance, not an >>>>>>>> appeal to your better neature. Secondly If I weasn't going to give >>>>>>>> to a cause, or I already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying >>>>>>>> me to give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance with the >>>>>>>> cause. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they made, >>>>>>>> not raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view of >>>>>>>> charities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way and he >>>>>>>> always expected you to donate some magical number of $ that only >>>>>>>> he knew. I stopped giving altogether because I didn't like the >>>>>>>> pressure from my boss. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory work >>>>>>>> donations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes you >>>>>>>> haven't already donated your budget to your cause of choice, or >>>>>>>> that you are ok with the mission and practice of the charity >>>>>>>> chosen by the company. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons and >>>>>>> raising money is that your cause may not be their cause. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of runs and >>>>>>> then not to my next ones. His son had become a diabetic and almost >>>>>>> died. They prefered to send to diabetes research. He apologized >>>>>>> for not donating and started to explain why. I immediately stopped >>>>>>> him and said "no problem. You have a different priority and that's >>>>>>> fine". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them resentful >>>>>>> of that cause. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from the >>>>>> outset?) >>>>> >>>>> (Yes, because I've been telling everyone that is the cause that "Achy >>>>> Breaky Heart" is playing to collect for.) >>>> >>>> (I have now read that sentence three times, and I still have no idea >>>> what it means.) >>> >>> So, you didn't read the article at the top of the thread? >> >> Summary: I'm collecting money that will not go to you, while at the >> same time instilling resentment towards you (because the donors *think* >> the annoying collection is done in your name). >> >> (It was funny in my head.) > > Ahhhhh...now it makes...sense is too strong a word, but something like it. I was still thinking of 'misdirection'... > (Note to self: Up Trafford's dosage.) (I don't think I can eat any more saltines.) -- Tyler Trafford 'Martyrdom' is the only way a person can become famous without ability. -- George Bernard Shaw .