Subj : Re: the true meaning of sacrifice To : alt.tv.farscape From : Tyler Trafford Date : Wed Sep 14 2005 04:49:24 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Tyler Trafford wrote: > Jim Larson wrote: >> Tyler Trafford wrote: >> >>> Jim Larson wrote: >>>> Rick Savoia wrote: >>>> >>>>> Trouble wrote in >>>>> news:cr2dnYSBJ6XG87reRVn-uQ@comcast.com: >>>>> >>>>>> Nick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7ree8 >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't like the precedent that is setting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote from the article; >>>>>> "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of people." >>>>>> >>>>>> In thirteen words they've defined just what's wrong with America, >>>>>> notice they don't mention anything about helping people, or a good >>>>>> cause... >>>>>> >>>>>> They're basically turning the relief effort into an anoyance, that is >>>>>> the first ugly part here, its a tax on your tolerance, not an appeal >>>>>> to your better neature. Secondly If I weasn't going to give to a >>>>>> cause, or I already gave what I allotted to a cause, annoying me to >>>>>> give more $ pushes beyond polite solicitation. >>>>>> >>>>>> People are going associate negativity from the annoyance with the >>>>>> cause. >>>>>> >>>>>> However the children are going to see how much money they made, not >>>>>> raised, and call it a sucess. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other children will take away from it a negative view of >>>>>> charities. >>>>>> >>>>>> I once had a boss[1] who always collected for United Way and he >>>>>> always expected you to donate some magical number of $ that only he >>>>>> knew. I stopped giving altogether because I didn't like the pressure >>>>>> from my boss. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sure others have similar experience with manadatory work >>>>>> donations. >>>>>> >>>>>> The worst part of mandatory work doantions is it assumes you haven't >>>>>> already donated your budget to your cause of choice, or that you are >>>>>> ok with the mission and practice of the charity chosen by the >>>>>> company. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> One of the things that I learned in running my marathons and raising >>>>> money is that your cause may not be their cause. >>>>> >>>>> One of my very good friends donated to my first couple of runs and >>>>> then not to my next ones. His son had become a diabetic and almost >>>>> died. They prefered to send to diabetes research. He apologized for >>>>> not donating and started to explain why. I immediately stopped him >>>>> and said "no problem. You have a different priority and that's fine". >>>>> >>>>> You can't make people donate to a cause. It makes them resentful of >>>>> that cause. >>>>> >>>> >>>> (So...The Larson for Supreme Dictator Fund is doomed from the outset?) >>> >>> (Yes, because I've been telling everyone that is the cause that "Achy >>> Breaky Heart" is playing to collect for.) >> >> (I have now read that sentence three times, and I still have no idea what it >> means.) > > So, you didn't read the article at the top of the thread? Summary: I'm collecting money that will not go to you, while at the same time instilling resentment towards you (because the donors *think* the annoying collection is done in your name). (It was funny in my head.) -- Tyler Trafford In defeat, unbeatable; in victory, unbearable. -- W. Churchill, on General Montgomery .