Subj : Re: Ethics test To : alt.tv.farscape From : John Iwaniszek Date : Sun Sep 11 2005 17:45:42 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Trouble wrote in news:FvudnbnBRcNFyrnenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com: > John Iwaniszek wrote: > >> Trouble wrote: >>> John Iwaniszek wrote: > >>>> Clinton had an academic deferrment. He didn't dodge the draft any >>>> more that Cheney did with his family deferrment, he was never >>>> drafted to begin with. He was studying abroad. What's magic >>>> about using a deferrment at a US school? > >>> Try getting the story straight, his educational S-2 status ended in >>> 1968 when he became 1-A available for service, he used family >>> connections to get a much desired slot in the reserves (Navy), then >>> failed to comply with the terms of that committment, sound familiar > >> "Failed" does not fairly characterize it. It sounds like >> contemporaries judged it less harshly then you are judging it now. > > I'm not judging it harshly, what I'm trying to get you to realize is > that the exact same thing is true for Bush. > > If you read the Hill article Bush contemporaries judged him less > harshly than you do now... > > http://www.hillnews.com/york/090904.aspx > >>> John; > >>> http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/politics/clintondraft.asp > >>> Clinton recieved his induction notice, and jouned ROTC to get a 1-D >>> reservist deferrement. There was much maneuvering used to get this >>> deferrment and then Clinton still balked at his obligation. > >> All perfectly legal and apparently part of a widely understood >> system. Something you can't say about Bush' s performance. > > Wrong Again, people of the time say that's exactly what happened, we > didn't need Combat pilots to go to Vietnam in 1973, there were > National Guard pilots all over the place with nothing to do. > So Bush gets a pass on skipping his physical, quitting early, and ditch five months without permission? Clinton did nothing wrong. And if you are arguing that he did, and it somehow made him unfit to be president, and also arguing that it was the same as what bush did, then I would suggest that you were incorrect in supporting Bush in the last election, over a decorated war hero who volunteered, fought with distinction, and came back to fight to end the war in order to save lives. .