Subj : Re: Ethics test
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : John Iwaniszek
Date : Sun Sep 11 2005 15:43:29

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

Trouble <troubleNOSPAM@tekfactory.com> wrote in
news:Z5udnd3WIsXgW77eRVn-hg@comcast.com: 

> John Iwaniszek wrote:
> 
>> Trouble wrote:
> 
>>> Clinton signed up for ROTC, but then left the country, went to
>>> Russia, joined the British Communist party and organized other US
>>> draft dodgers for anti-war demonstrations.
> 
>> he never joined the Communist party, you ninny.
> 
> Namecalling John? not a very strong one, but still
> 
> Sorry, the exact organization was the British Peace Council, 


OK.  Joining The British Peace Council = Joining the Communist Part. 
This is the same level of idiocy as the'wingers who claimed that the 
100,000+ pre-Iraq War anti-war marchers were socialists because ANSWER 
was involved in organizing and sending some marchers along with the rest 
of the grannies, mothers, fathers, homeowners, students, soldiers, 
workers, and children.

In other words, this is a simplistic and extremely offensive McCarthyite 
smear.


setup by
> the British Communist Party where he organized pro-communist anti-war
> rallies so he wasn't a member of the communist party he was a member
> of a group started by the BCP, funded by the WCP, which in turn was
> funded by the KGB. He wittingly or unwittingly supported their agenda,
> sounds like splitting hairs to me.
> 
>> And he visited Russia. so what?
> 
> And who paid for the trip? Who did he meet with?


He was a student?  What do you think he was doing?  Meeting with 
Breshnev to discuss nucliear footwear.  More McCarthyitism.  You are 
using some very antique innuendo with virtually nothing to back it up.


> 
>> and he avoided the draft in the Vietnam War:  good for him!
> 
> says you, though Carter pardoned all draft dodgers, I doubt the people
> who were drafted and went to vietam would be so flippant and cavalier 
> 

Yes, because we must never give up a fight and should always honor the 
fallen by killing some more.  Sorry.  As an American we all have a right 
to make these judgements for ourselves.  And I am quite certain that 
there are Vietnam vets who would have encouraged avoiding service at all 
costs and would have been perfectly willing to give anyone a pass, even 
a drunken frat-boy like Bush, if they did what ever it took to get out 
of going to Vietnam.


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