Subj : Re: Rescue Me
To   : alt.tv.farscape
From : Trouble
Date : Thu Sep 08 2005 13:35:11

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape

weirdwolf wrote:

> Trouble wrote:
>> weirdwolf wrote:

>>>  We both know that 99.9% of the stuff taught in womans selfdefence 
>>> classes is utter crap.
 
>> Is there a Krav Maga class anywhere nearby she could take?
 
>  OW! fortunately no, perhaps Taekwondo would be an alternative just as
> good.

I don't know I'd have to find a Tae Kwon Do dojo that wasn't centered 
around winning trophies, and building confidence...

I'd do some research for something; Wing Chun, Muay Thai, Jeet Kune Do, 
where the traditional practicioners are small, and sometimes women...

This is why I suggested Krav Maga, if its good enough for the Israelli 
Army its good enough for Claire, plus the concentration on lower body 
strength works well for women.

>> My favorite is a simple wrist lock the levers the palm of someone's
>> hand and creates pain in the wrist by pulling tendons, it takes
>> surprisingly little force, and only leaves the victim a little sore
>> when released. 

> Wrist locks are nice and I have used them but it's a
> different matter in the real world. You are a large chap I should
> guess from the various decriptions do you really believe somebody
> without your body weight, limb length and muscle would be able to move
> a determined attackers wrist.

ask Claire to put her thumb outside of your palm, and the rest of her 
hand on the inside, then push the palm down/back towards the attacker so 
as to hyperextend the tendons...

It does not take any strength at all.

There are other problems of taking the initiative, and drastic 
differences in size (height mostly) make it hard to get to soft spots...

A LONG RANGE weapon, or loud horn may deter an attacker, this is best for 
all involved it to make it hard for them to get close enough to do 
something.


And yes I'm a big guy, as I've said here before the best technique I've 
found for dealing with attackers is to hoist them over my head, and wait 
for them to figure out who is in control. 

The attacker is never rational to begin with, and you have to evoke fear 
of being seen, being caught, something they are helpless against in order 
to overcome that behavior.
 

> This is one of my bugbears about womens self defence courses they are 
> taught in an environment where people to resist the technique and you
> see people taking one or two lessons at the Y and thinking that is all
> they need.

Wait you mean that performing the technique satisfactorally in a class, 
with somebody else who's not vested in the outcome isn't a good way to 
determine real world performance...

Its no wonder all our self-confidence out your ass kids these days don't 
do better when they are faced with genuine adversity.

-- 
"Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise.
Seek what they sought."
--Basho

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