Subj : Re: It seems not everyone To : Chaya From : Finnigann Date : Wed Sep 07 2005 13:34:00 -=> Chaya wrote to alt.tv.farscape <=- Ch> From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Ch> Finnigann wrote: > To: Chaya > -=> Chaya wrote to alt.tv.farscape <=- > > Ch> From Newsgroup: > alt.tv.farscape > > Ch> John Iwaniszek wrote: > > > Chaya wrote in > > news:Xns96C9A3B9D86A2chayaruth@204.153.244.170: > > > >> Nick wrote: > >> > >>> Chaya wrote: > >>> > >>>> Ken McElhaney wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Over the weekend, ABC/Washington Post poll reveals that despite > >>>>> the massive criticism aired 24/7 on Bush, most Americans just > >>>>> don't see it that way; > >>>>> > >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/8lbd5 > >>>>> > >>>>> And while the federal response was way too slow and disasters of > >>>>> this size should NOT be handled by FEMA, but rather the US > >>>>> military (which has no buerocracy to get in the way), I do have > >>>>> some questions for the local 'n state authorities, namely; > >>>>> > >>>>> Why did the Mayor of New Orleans wait until SUNDAY to order the > >>>>> manditory evacuation of his city? 24 hours after both the > >>>>> govenor AND Bush pleaded with him to do so? > >>>>> > >>>>> Why didn't the Superdome & Convention Center have ANY water 'n > >>>>> food supplies IF they were suppose to be shelters? > >>>>> > >>>>> And if they weren't capable of handling that number of people, > >>>>> then why didn't they use the school 'n tourist buses (there were > >>>>> over 500 that survived the hurricane) to start getting them out > >>>>> BEFORE the flood waters cut off the city? In fact, why didn't > >>>>> they start moving people out on Saturday? > >>>>> > >>>>> When word of the water barriers breaking reached the gov's > >>>>> office on Monday, why didn't she send in the National Guard > >>>>> (over 5,000 soldiers who had already been activated) into New > >>>>> Orleans right away before the flood waters cut off the city? > >>>>> > >>>>> I think that after all this is over and the investigations are > >>>>> concluded, we'll have a new FEMA director, a new federal system > >>>>> for handling disaters of this massive size (which is larger than > >>>>> ANY in US history), and hopefully New Orleans will have a new > >>>>> Mayor and perhaps an actual plan to deal with a situation > >>>>> everyone knew could happen over the past 40 years. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I would be very surprised if GWB fired anyone over this. He only > >>>> seems to can people who disagree with him, including the Director > >>>> of the Bureau of Justice Statistics (who refused to bury > >>>> statistical findings that racial profiling is alive and well). > >>>> > >>>> http://littlink.com/owv5y > >>>> > >>> > >>> If all were equally likely to be stopped it doesn't sound like > >>> racial profiling. Now, there were some problems with what > >>> happened afterwards, I'll agree. But I thought racial profiling > >>> had to do with who got stopped. Do I have the definition > >>> incorrect? > >> > >> > >> The term "racial profiling" kind of encompasses the whole spectrum, > >> including stopping, searching, citing, ticketing, etc. Officers > >> may stop people equally, but they be more likely to issue citations > >> to minority drivers, for example. > >> > >> What I haven't seen is any indication the study controlled for > >> things like prior criminal record, outstanding warrants, or suspect > >> demeanor toward the police (which would increase the likelihood of > >> arrest). > >> > >> My main concern about this issue was that there was an attempt to > >> bury it. I mean, why not say, "Hey, guess what? Minority drivers > >> aren't any more likely to be stopped than white drivers according > >> to this study. However, they are more likely to be searched, > >> ticketed, and arrested. We need to find out why." > >> > > > > McVeigh was a white Republcan, wasn't he? > > > > Ch> Yes... he's the example I tend to use when people argue that we > should Ch> use racial profiling to identify terrorists. > > > Oh yeah... I'll bet when they are looking for a serial killer, you > don't mind that they concentrate on males! > > Men, the last minority! Ch> Ack! Gender profiling! I bet females do it all the time... WTF am I talking about. I HOPE they do it all the time!! .... Waiter, I want a crocodile sandwhich, and make it snappy! --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.46 .