Subj : Re: Um...no comment? To : Finnigann From : richardw Date : Mon Sep 19 2005 14:17:00 Re: Re: Um...no comment? By: Finnigann to Frank Reid on Sat Sep 17 2005 12:34 pm > > And so many charitys have been found to be little more than scams possing > > charity. > > > > Can we not do better? > > FR> You think the federal government could do better at dispensing > FR> charities than churches, the Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc.?! > > Well yawl. They have more money. And they don't require religious afiliation > either. Just a few quotes for you... We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -- Winston Churchill I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.... -- James Madison I don't like the income tax. Every time we talk about these taxes we get around to the idea of 'from each according to his capacity and to each according to his needs'. That's socialism. It's written into the Communist Manifesto. Maybe we ought to see that every person who gets a tax return receives a copy of the Communist Manifesto with it so he can see what's happening to him.. -- T. Coleman Andrews, Commissioner of Internal Revenue, May 25, 1956 in U.S. News & World Report To lay with one hand the power of government on the property of the citizen, and with the other to bestow it on favored individuals .... is none the less robbery because it is .... called taxation. -- US Supreme Court in Loan Association v. Topeka (1874) There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. -- Robert A. Heinlein When there is an income tax, the just man will pay more and the unjust less on the same amount of income. -- Plato, The Republic For an illustration of the difference between proportionate and progressive taxation, we can look to the Bible. There, tithing is explained as the economic basis of our Judaic-Christian religions. The Lord says you shall contribute one-tenth and He says, 'If I prosper you 10 times as much you will give 10 times as much.' That is proportionate -- but look what happens today when you start computing Caesar's share. A man of average income who suddenly prospered ten times as much would find his personal income tax increased 43 times. -- Ronald Reagan It would be a hard government that should tax its people one-tenth part of their income. -- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac, 1758 Quote on Taxes You can talk about "social justice" all you want. But what death taxes boil down to is letting politicians take money from widows and orphans to pay for goodies that they will hand out to others, in order to buy votes to get reelected That is not social justice or any other kind of justice. -- Thomas Sowell What does 'fair' mean? In the dictionary, it means that everyone has to do about the same. Ten percent of a million dollars is still ten times more than ten percent of a hundred thousand dollars, and twenty times more than ten percent of fifty thousand. But 'fairness' in the tax code has come to mean that we take all the money we can from successful people and dole it back ... and what do we end up with? We end up with a jobs program for bureaucrats, and accountants, and lawyers, and somewhere along the way the taxpaying citizens are just plain forgotten. I'll tell you what I think 'fair' means. I think it means we all bear the same burden in the same proportion. I think it means that the system not only allows, but encourages us to participate in the economy. -- Tom Clancy, Executive Orders, 1996 If you would not confront your neighbor and demand his money at the point of a gun to solve every new problem that may appear in your life, you should not allow the government to do it for you. -- William E. Simon People who relieve others of their money with guns are called robbers. It does not alter the immorality of the act when the income transfer is carried out by government. -- Cal Thomas --- þ Synchronet þ Eleemosynary ELF - eelf.richardw.net .