Subj : Re: Um...no comment? To : richardw From : Daemon Date : Tue Sep 06 2005 18:38:00 Re: Re: Um...no comment? By: richardw to Finnigann on Tue Sep 06 2005 > Have you any idea how long it takes to rebuild a levee? Let us postulate > that funding was DOUBLED as soon as Bush took office for the first term. > You think that would have changed anything today? > > Have you any idea the level of crookedness in the NO, and LA governments? > Can you possibly think that more than say 20% of the funds appropriated > would actually get put into the levee? > > I have a well educated friend who grew up there... I've heard bad things. *shakes head* You know, it seems the whole opposition to criticism is boiling down to relatively few things: 1) "This is my opinion. It is its own justification because either a) I live and work near the people being criticized or b) I know someone who does." I think it's pretty obvious that #1 fails any kind of critical scrutiny beyond being able to pin-point ego-stroking at 100 yards. and 2) "We couldn't have guarded against Nature, so why bother trying?" Number 2 is just dumb. If it's based on saving $$, then what about the $10.5 billion INITIAL lump sum designated to be paid-out instead of the paltry $250 million? If it's a matter of not wanting to spend the time and effort to do it, then get the lazy-ass people responsible for that point of view out of the goddamned government, because that attitude is costing LIVES. If we hold #2 as a given, then we might as well stop trying to design earthquake-proof structures, early-warning systems, relief-systems, etc. We might as well stop trying to decipher the workings of tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, sink-holes and volcanic activity. We might as well make it an openly-stated position of the culture that everyone's on their own; no help is to be provided for those dumb enough to put themselves in harm's way by living in an area prone to natural disaster (and then compile the short-list of places that are immune from such, because as far as I know, there aren't many places on earth immune to Nature). If we're going to assume the position that governmental agencies are incapable of accomplishing their chartered function, that elected officials that think, for instance, that "strategery" is a word are better qualified to make complex scientific and engineering-oriented decisions about things that aren't directly self-serving to their own political goals, then we're removing our own interests from government entirely and MIGHT AS WELL just stop voting. Save that effort and $$, too. Why is it that it NEVER seems to be "the right time" to criticize the government anymore? That there's NEVER a reason for holding the government accountable anymore? That, no matter what beaurocratic failure has been documented and in how many ways, there's ALWAYS that voice of, "so?" to be heard that just continues to make it okay for such to continue unabated? Come on, guys. The facts rather obviate themselves. Facts, mind you, not JUST editorial opinion or "because I know better" or "because I know someone who knows better" or "it costs too much" or "it takes too much time and effort", etc etc etc. This is a seriously ridiculous arguement. [daemon] In the shuffling madness... --- þ Synchronet þ necropolisbbs.darktech.org - Tonawanda, NY .