Subj : Re: Canadian oil
To   : Deuce
From : Finnigann
Date : Fri Sep 02 2005 05:17:00

-=> Deuce wrote to Finnigann <=-

 De>   Re: Re: Canadian oil
 De>   By: Finnigann to Deuce on Thu Sep 01 2005 19:30:00

 >  >  De> I currently buy things with a large energy overhead... but I don't n
 >  >  De> to. These are mostly luxury items or items which are cheaper despite
 >  >  De> the extra cost of import than local equivelents.  If I skip the
 >  >  De> luxuries, I can comfortably afford the local products and get by.
 >  >
 >  > you're not Amish, by any chance?
 >
 >  De> No, why?
 >
 > you are descibing a life style similar to theirs. I don't think the planet c
 > sustain the current levels of human population with out 21st century
 > echnology.
 >
 > To go back would be to sentence 4-5 billion people to death.

 De> Hrm... first of all, I think you misunderstand the amish lifestyle
 De> quite a bit. Secondly, I don't believe I said anything about eschewing
 De> technology.  A "local" product would be one made in Canada or the US
 De> rather than China.  A luxury product would be something along the lines
 De> of a command-start for the car, or electric garage door openers...
 De> maybe a combination espresso/cappuchino/coffee maker for the kitchen.
 De> I'm fairly certain the world could continue to exist even if every
 De> single one of those items suffered from a mass existance failure
 De> tonight.  A "luxury" product is by definition one that is NOT required
 De> to sustain the population.


What you describe as luxury items are necessities for most folks. doing without
is the same as not doing.

I am getting the feeling that your just picking nits here. So let me restate my
opinion in hopes that it will clear this up.

The world is going to need alternate sources of energy. Sooner or later the
pertorelum will run out[1] The sooner that an alternate(s) are found the
cheaper the conversion can be. If there is a long over lap of petroelum and
this undiscovered alternate, so much the better. I think in this case long is
better. I have no quarrels with however you get to work Ford pinto or horse
back. But please acknowledge the fact that your options are not everyones
options. A whole lot of the world has to spend alot of money on their energy
needs - today.


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[1] or be so expensive as to be beyond the finaincial reach of most people.

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