Subj : Iraq and Democracy To : All From : Daemon Date : Fri Oct 14 2005 23:14:00 Here's a pretty central-to-the-point reason why Democracy will fail in Iraq: http://tinyurl.com/daets ...as a few of us have been pointing out since before the invasion even began. Beyond the scope of the article, also remember that Iraqi women, according to firm cultural mores, are liable to cast their votes according to the instruction of their husbands. And their husbands to the heirarchy above THEM, etc. Democracy in motion in Iraq, without the hovering military presence of the US pointing guns at everyone not acting Western-like, will be collective movement to return to exactly the same kind of governmental structure they had before, ultimately with a dictatorship or, at the least, warlord-style rule. This is precisely WHY Democracy can't be delivered at the tip of a cruise missile; it HAS to grow from within a culture. In this way, it's the natural extention OF the culture as an intellectual and social appendage that has the potential for growth. The way GWB has attempted to do it in Iraq is exactly AGAINST the culture, forcing it back on itself in a way that challenges their religious and familial world-view. It WILL snap back to where it belongs and, ironically, it looks like it'll use the democratic process itself t do it. (And probably provide the media with a 24-hour coverage opportunity of Sunni genocide along the way, leaving the NEW old religio-political-social structure more fundamentally whacko than ever before for having been given the chance to purify itself along the way.) It just can't work, without supplanting the most basic traditions and values of the people there, forcing them to abandon themselves and become something they're not and have no intention of becoming. The idea of freedom, in a simplistic sense, is a great gift to think you can just hand-out freely. But in the end, guess what? Iraqis are going to exercise that freedom to BE THEMSELVES, and that's a culture NOT predicated on the most basic and fundamental principle of any democratic system: individual sovereignty and liberty for all. It's a culture historically and unswervingly predicated on exactly the opposite. [daemon] In the shuffling madness... --- þ Synchronet þ Necropolis - necropolisbbs.darktech.org .