Subj : 1:10/345 To : Lesley-Dee Dylan From : Michael Grant Date : Thu Dec 06 2001 10:25 am Hello Lesley-Dee. 06 Dec 01 12:54, you wrote to me: MG>> You allude that Richard is untrustworthy because his MG>> uplink is untrustworthy. A clear ASSumption of guilt by LD> Try reading what is said. No one said that Richard was untrustworthy. LD> What was said was that his uplink has a history of altering the LD> in-transit feed. If the feed is altered before it gets to Richard, LD> then it is still altered when it gets to Richard's downlinks. If the LD> downlink wants an unaltered feed, the downlink has to feed from LD> someone other than Richard. Perhaps Richard agrees with the altering; perhaps every other downlink of Richard's uplink also agrees with the altering; since as I contended earlier, the file that was moved out of the BACKBONE echo in many people's opinions did not belong there and was in effect a spamming of that file echo. If every downlink of Richard's uplink agrees with what the uplink does, that uplink is justified in what he does. You allude that that makes Richard's uplink untrustworthy; I see it as him listening to the concerns of his downlinks. That /still/ doesn't mean that Richard won't accomodate a downlink of /his/ system's wishes, and seek out an alternate source for any given downlink to ensure his downlinks get what they want. No hub is bound to recieve /every/ fileecho from the same source; never have been; and a good hub will put his or her downlink's wishes ahead of his or her own. You find the hub guilty without even a trial, though; even while your contention of his uplink's supposed "guilt" is questionable at best; and because you don't like the hub's uplink, you won't even consider using that hub's services. As I said, guilt by association. You remind me of racists who won't associate with a neighbor because they associate with persons of color. --- GoldED/386 3.0.1-dam3 * Origin: MikE'S MaDHousE: WelComE To ThE AsYluM! (1:134/11) .