Subj : 1:10/345
To   : David Calafrancesco
From : mark lewis
Date : Wed Nov 28 2001 05:56 pm

 MG>> I never claimed it did; but when one agrees to accept a link, they
 MG>> ought not to use the threat of disconnecting that link to force one
 MG>> to be silent wrt their political views. This is in effect using
 MG>> links as a weapon; and /that/ is what I find morally repugnant.

 DC> Yet flipping that around we see that forcing a hub to maintain
 DC> a connection that is no longer desired is also a political
 DC> move. One view says that a hub is master of their connections
 DC> and can connect with whom they choose, the other says that
 DC> exercising personal choice is playing politics.

errrm, something's missing in that last line... there is a qualification to 
that statement...

 DC> Now, at the same time this was happening, we were faced with
 DC> several NAB hubs altering in-transit files so they no longer
 DC> propogated in their hatched file area. At the same time,
 DC> several other hubs were informed that they would no longer be
 DC> able to deliver routed netmail to the ZC, as their secured
 DC> sessions were locked down. Our choices for a filegate feed
 DC> were to use a NAB hub that altered traffic, or a hub ill
 DC> prepared for the task at hand.

as i stated in the Z1B_COORD echo when this came up (actually when i caught up 
with it after getting reconnected), the Z1B is in the business of moving mail 
not files... "filegate feed" would seem to imply that some Z1B systems are also 
a part of the filegate network... since that's outside the Z1B purvue, 
something's (still) amiss... one problem is too much blurring of where one is 
and/or what hat one is wearing at a certain time...

[trim]

 DC> Nobody is making anyone the boogey man. His messages and
 DC> attacks have annoyed one of our hubs, who is so annoyed that
 DC> he is willing to reconfigure his system to remove a source of
 DC> iritation. What is so difficult to understand about that?

that's total BS... dale removing the password for secure netmail sessions isn't 
going to do a thing to stop ross from writting messages in any echo or 
netmail... if dale has such a problem reading ross' messages and those messages 
still end up on dale's system where he can read them, then dale has other 
problems to take care of...

 DC>> My personal opinion is that Dale would be much happier if he
 DC>> just put a filter in that removed all messages from Ross.

in his own reader or on his own system, yes... but not in what passes thru his 
system to others...

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